Diego DONE DEAL(read posts #1 & #4786) (45 Viewers)

[Mark]

Both can be done IMO.

Defensive LB & attacking RB and vice-versa.

If Diego loses the ball Sissoko/Polusen will help it and by saying that I am seeing our LB as not totally retarder person who can defend at all even if he's attacking-minded.

yes and I understand the 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 while defending and the theory of a defensive RB(who needs to know how to play CB also) in a 3-4-1-2 while attacking.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Diego as a direct replacement for Nedved is an unneeded experiment. In this case Camoranesi isn't a problem, i agree, but i doubt we'll get a lot from Diego if we play him on ML, even if Diego plays an AML that cuts in.

But if we get Diego we better use him where he can give his best, and that's right behind the strikers. That means that the formation will have to change to 4-3-1-2 and we won't play with wingers. This is a problem for Camo the MR, but like i said, he's versatile enough to take a more central role and also, again as i mentioned, in a year or more likely two years, Camo probably won't be the same player and he'll be replaced by someone else so there won't be a problem with playing 4-3-1-2.

How is it a problem? Under Lippi, Camoranesi played that role on the right with Nedved as the attacking midfielder.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Diego as a direct replacement for Nedved is an unneeded experiment. In this case Camoranesi isn't a problem, i agree, but i doubt we'll get a lot from Diego if we play him on ML, even if Diego plays an AML that cuts in.

But if we get Diego we better use him where he can give his best, and that's right behind the strikers. That means that the formation will have to change to 4-3-1-2 and we won't play with wingers. This is a problem for Camo the MR, but like i said, he's versatile enough to take a more central role and also, again as i mentioned, in a year or more likely two years, Camo probably won't be the same player and he'll be replaced by someone else so there won't be a problem with playing 4-3-1-2.

With Diego I'd prefer 4-3-1-2 over 4-4-2 for sure.

It would be hard to play Camo there if he isn't versatile...but he is and that's the reason why I'd change the system into 4-3-1-2 where Diego would shine...I remember him(Camo) playing in middle before and he was great.I even wanted him to start there again next match.

He is old and he can be replaced in a few years but he's also injury prone sadly.But that doesn't matter,if we play him in 4-3-1-2 when he's fit I think he'd do a good job.

 

[Alen]

How is it a problem? Under Lippi, Camoranesi played that role on the right with Nedved as the attacking midfielder.

Nedved wasn't a typical AMC like Totti (for Italy and Roma in the past). He still covered his left side while Camo was playing on the right and it was still a 4-4-2.


We never played Camo as a right winger with empty space on the left wing. Camo did play as a right winger but Nedved was still covering the left side. Diego can also do that and that is what Di Livio is suggesting.
I agree with Di Livio that it can work, especially since they are all great players, but i still see Diego doing better if he plays a classical AMC.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't think Nedved covered the left as much as he does today, that's for sure. In reality I don't recall him covering the left that much back then, unless we were under a lot of pressure.

 

[Enoran]

I don't think Nedved covered the left as much as he does today, that's for sure. In reality I don't recall him covering the left that much back then, unless we were under a lot of pressure.

Yes, I rem Davids playing alot on the left under Lippi back then ...

 

[Alen]

I don't think Nedved covered the left as much as he does today, that's for sure. In reality I don't recall him covering the left that much back then, unless we were under a lot of pressure.

The bolded part is true. He certainly wasn't a typical winger as Capello and Ranieri play him, but he did operate mostly from the left side. He was an AML more than an AMC.

 

[v1rtu4l]

Look,anything can happen in transfer market but you can't be slow. (the way we were last year).

i do not want us to be slow. i don't see him moving in the winter, so it is ok to start talks from the winter on until the summer ... we don't have another chance, as bremen wont let him go in winter.

You are talking like we're Lecce or Modena.Why wouldn't he come?And why would he stay in Bremen?

i don't say that he would not like to switch to us, but i say that there are other clubs that can asure him better circumstances ... better weather, better money, better teammates (quality wise)

there could be quite a few reasons:
- he could be afraid to flop again like in porto .. right now he has a team that is build around him and where he is the undisputed star
- his next club is likely the one with that he will make the next step (perhaps competing for the champions league)... there are other teams that have a better history in competing for the CL lately
- since his next club will be one where he will spend his prime he will try to get the highest wage and the best club to fit his needs... todays contracts are often 4 years and so his next club will be the best he gets and not some club he does not consider the absolutely best (he wont use the next club as stepstone)

We are among the top in Serie A and we are a doing good job in Champions League.I don't think he'd want to stay there forever.Secco can help,talk to him 100 times untill summer market,watch his games,make him a fu#king house in Torino or whatever it helps to convice him come here or sign a pre-contract.

as already stated above ... i do not think that we aren't a good club for him, but i just guess there will be clubs that are better in convincing players.

Yeah,he can maybe adore Spanish sunset or English sky-high wages but that should not be a reason why to stop chasing some player and give your best to sign him.Especially if that player is Diego's quality.

you got me wrong. i don't say we should stop chasing him. i just said "stop critizising, without reason". we will compete for him and if the chance is there and he would like to come to us, he will...

but today there are too many players that do talk a lot this day and completely other stuff the next day... add to that that he did not even say a word of wanting to leave bremen

 

[Dostoevsky]

i do not want us to be slow. i don't see him moving in the winter, so it is ok to start talks from the winter on until the summer ... we don't have another chance, as bremen wont let him go in winter.

Who mentioned winter?He won't come untill summer transfer window.

I just stated that we should already start talking with him & Bremen staff.

i don't say that he would not like to switch to us, but i say that there are other clubs that can asure him better circumstances ... better weather, better money, better teammates (quality wise)

Well it's all up to player.If it's me I'd rather choose some top club with decent wages & starting spot and not some rotation with Ronaldinho or someone...especially because he's still very young.Weather is not bad in Italy.

there could be quite a few reasons:
- he could be afraid to flop again like in porto .. right now he has a team that is build around him and where he is the undisputed star
- his next club is likely the one with that he will make the next step (perhaps competing for the champions league)... there are other teams that have a better history in competing for the CL lately
- since his next club will be one where he will spend his prime he will try to get the highest wage and the best club to fit his needs... todays contracts are often 4 years and so his next club will be the best he gets and not some club he does not consider the absolutely best (he wont use the next club as stepstone)

-If he wants to advance in football career he will take the risk and move and not be afraid to do something like that.He already is Bremen star but I think he would love to be a Juve star.It's something else.
-We were and we still are a great team...you know that and Diego knows that.Real have great history but I wouldn't go there.
-If Tottenham offers you 5mln/year you would still consider some top club 3.5mln/year offer.It's not everything in money.

as already stated above ... i do not think that we aren't a good club for him, but i just guess there will be clubs that are better in convincing players.

You can just blame Secco for what you just said.

you got me wrong. i don't say we should stop chasing him. i just said "stop critizising, without reason". we will compete for him and if the chance is there and he would like to come to us, he will...

There was a reason and that reason was an article.It maybe was Tuttosport but Ranieri already said he doesn't want to play with trequartista without a reason which is stupid.

but today there are too many players that do talk a lot this day and completely other stuff the next day.

Blame humans psychic.

 

[Alex' Del Piero]

Such as all we know that juventus specially the president wants to get Diego to the Juventus. In the news are written that diego approve to come at Juventus but Ranieri at this morning decided to not accept Diego. For my opinion we should get Diego because he is a cool player. What you think guys for:

1. The ranieri decision?
2. To get Diego at Juventus?

These are the answers for me:


The ranieri decision? ---- I don't think its a good idea for this decision
To get Diego at Juventus? ---- I will be pretty proud if Diego comes to Juventus!

Have a nice day folks!
Juventuz Forums!

 

[Ledje]

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26347

 

[Alex' Del Piero]

Hehee .. Sorry i didn't read the other thread titles.

BTW: Your signature rocks!

 

[Alex' Del Piero]

Let's wait till January and let's hope that he comes. He makes very wonderful Goals!

 

[Fred]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec11i.html

The only way I can see Diego fitting in, would be if he was willing to fill in at LM when we don't have the ball.

We would also need to get a very good LB to get forward and maintain width on the left side when Diego goes into more central areas.

When in possession:

Buffon

Grygera-Legrottaglie-Chiellini---------

Camoranesi-Sissoko-Poulsen-Left Back

Diego

Trezeguet-Del Piero​

When not in possession:

Buffon

Grygera-Legrottaglie-Chiellini-Left Back

Camoranesi-Sissoko-Poulsen-Diego

Del Piero

Trezeguet.​

This is pretty much sticking to our beloved 4-4-2, it is just giving Diego the freedom to make it a 4-3-1-2 when we have possession.

Thats actually a very good idea, but it would of course need a leftback other than Molinaro someone who can go up and down, and we all know that Ranieri likes Molinaro and has shown no indication that he'd replace him in the near future.

 

[Lion]

hence why Ranieri and Molinaro will be gone by the end of the season.

I hope.

 

[Osman]

Not like I need another reason to want a better coach then Ranieri, but an added bonus would be that Molinaro wouldnt last another game as a starter if we got another coach. Stay as a squad player perhaps, but hardly first choice.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Such as all we know that juventus specially the president wants to get Diego to the Juventus. In the news are written that diego approve to come at Juventus but Ranieri at this morning decided to not accept Diego. For my opinion we should get Diego because he is a cool player. What you think guys for:

1. The ranieri decision?
2. To get Diego at Juventus?

These are the answers for me:


The ranieri decision? ---- I don't think its a good idea for this decision
To get Diego at Juventus? ---- I will be pretty proud if Diego comes to Juventus!

Have a nice day folks!
Juventuz Forums!

the president didnt want diego, the fans told him and the board two years ago (in serie B) that zidane had to be replaced and diego was their choice much to the approval of gigli who too agreed that zidane had to be properly replaced who has since done f*ck all other than break his promise to the fans to sign him, instead signed poulsen and called him the star midfield signing of the summer. this guy needs to grow a pair of balls and scrotom sack to hold them in

 

[Fellas]

the president didnt want diego, the fans told him and the board two years ago (in serie B) that zidane had to be replaced and diego was their choice much to the approval of gigli who too agreed that zidane had to be properly replaced who has since done f*ck all other than break his promise to the fans to sign him, instead signed poulsen and called him the star midfield signing of the summer. this guy needs to grow a pair of balls and scrotom sack to hold them in

You mean the Drughis told Juventus board that we should sign Diego?.. Not making fun of you in any way.. but this seems a bit unrealistic for me.. and can I ask how do you know this?

 

[Bozi]

he is the leader of the hardcore drughi ultra movement in...em...watford

 

[Marc]

at this thread. Screw Diego by the way.