Diego DONE DEAL(read posts #1 & #4786) (59 Viewers)

[Osman]

IMO it could work if the LB is defensive so he can help out on Diego's lack of defensive awareness and the RB should be an attacking RB.

On the contrary, its more vital tis a LB that is attacking, that will fill in offensively in that wing, take over that whole wing when Diego cuts in when we are in possession.

Too keep the balance, then its good to have the RB to be a more balanced defensive one. More of a Thuram, and a Zambro that goes gunho apeshit on the left side when the "left winger" goes central.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

I think it would maintain the balance better if the RB is quite defensive, that way the formation almost changes to a 3-4-1-2 when we have the ball.

I reckon it could work with a LB who isn't great at defending, providing either Sissoko or Poulsen is focused on covering that side of the pitch, but it would be better if the LB was good defensively..

Ivanovic & Zhirkov and it would work very well IMO.

 

[Red]

On the contrary, its more vital tis a LB that is attacking, that will fill in offensively in that wing, take over that whole wing when Diego cuts in when we are in possession.

Too keep the balance, then its good to have the RB to be a more balanced defensive one. More of a Thuram, and a Zambro that goes gunho apeshit on the left side when the "left winger" goes central.

Ivanovic & Zhirkov and it would work very well IMO.

Good to see some folk got what I was on about.

 

[Sadomin]

I think it would maintain the balance better if the RB is quite defensive, that way the formation almost changes to a 3-4-1-2 when we have the ball.

I reckon it could work with a LB who isn't great at defending, providing either Sissoko or Poulsen is focused on covering that side of the pitch, but it would be better if the LB was good defensively..

So if we were to do something like that with our current squad, it'd be Mellberg as RB, De Ceglie as LB and Giovinco at LM?

 

[Red]

So if we were to do something like that with our current squad, it'd be Mellberg as RB, De Ceglie as LB and Giovinco at LM?

Pretty much.

I think Grygera is defence minded enough to be the RB, though.

 

[v1rtu4l]

Lets resurrect Torricelli and Pessotto

Pessotto ..... riiiiise !


defensively pessotto would fit the bill ... let's just ask him

 

[Luca]

yes because when attacking:
melberg---->->->chiellini-----legro-------D.C---
Camo------------Momo------Zanetti---------↓-----
----------------------------Diego(from left)--------
----------------------D.P-----------Amauri--------

 

[Mark]

our left side would be vulnerable IMO on opponent(Great teams) counter attacks.

 

[v1rtu4l]

our left side would be vulnerable IMO on opponent(Great teams) counter attacks.

don't underestimate pessotto !

 

[Alen]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec11i.html

The only way I can see Diego fitting in, would be if he was willing to fill in at LM when we don't have the ball.

We would also need to get a very good LB to get forward and maintain width on the left side when Diego goes into more central areas.

When in possession:

Buffon

Grygera-Legrottaglie-Chiellini---------

Camoranesi-Sissoko-Poulsen-Left Back

Diego

Trezeguet-Del Piero​

When not in possession:

Buffon

Grygera-Legrottaglie-Chiellini-Left Back

Camoranesi-Sissoko-Poulsen-Diego

Del Piero

Trezeguet.​

This is pretty much sticking to our beloved 4-4-2, it is just giving Diego the freedom to make it a 4-3-1-2 when we have possession.

Don't we get the same thing just be replacing Diego with Giovinco?

Anyway, my stance on this is that you don't say no to great players, no matter the system. I understand that CURRENTLY it will be a bit problematic to find a new winning formula and it may take some time for Diego to fit into our tactics, but we must think long-term.
The problem about Diego atm are Camoranesi and Nedved. If we get Diego now then one of them, or one of our attackers (Del Piero) will have to sit on the bench.
But Diego is 23 while Nedved is 36, Del Piero is 34 and Camoranesi is 32. Nedved will retire next year while Camo is versatile enough to fit into any other system (4-3-3, 4-3-1-2 etc). Plus, after a season or two Camoranesi and Del Piero probably won't be as good as they are now and the 4-4-2 may not work so well in 2010.

 

[Red]

our left side would be vulnerable IMO on opponent(Great teams) counter attacks.

That is the weakness of the formation.

The best way round that would be to get Poulsen to cover that area, the same way he used to cover for Dani Alves at Sevilla.

 

[Sadomin]

Even if we'd stick Diego on the wing he'd probably perform better than many of the natural wingers we already have or are linked to.

 

[Red]

Don't we get the same thing just be replacing Diego with Giovinco?

Anyway, my stance on this is that you don't say no to great players, no matter the system. I understand that CURRENTLY it will be a bit problematic to find a new winning formula and it may take some time for Diego to fit into our tactics, but we must think long-term.
The problem about Diego atm are Camoranesi and Nedved. If we get Diego now then one of them, or one of our attackers (Del Piero) will have to sit on the bench.
But Diego is 23 while Nedved is 36, Del Piero is 34 and Camoranesi is 32. Nedved will retire next year while Camo is versatile enough to fit into any other system (4-3-3, 4-3-1-2 etc). Plus, after a season or two Camoranesi and Del Piero probably won't be as good as they are now and the 4-4-2 may not work so well in 2010.

We could do the same with Giovinco, and it is something I would like to see us try.

I also agree we need to take a longer term view, if Diego is available.

I would add to the players that we may not be able to count on in the longer term, a certain Coach. I'm sure almost any new Coach would be only too happy to have Diego at his disposal.

 

[Mark]

That is the weakness of the formation.

The best way round that would be to get Poulsen to cover that area, the same way he used to cover for Dani Alves at Sevilla.

Could be done.

In my case, my defensive LB would cover the left side while Diego/Giovinco cuts in the middle. If Diego/Gio has possession and doesn't lose the ball then my right side(Camo and attacking RB) stay alert for a pass/cross from the left while my forward(DP) shifts to the left and brings their LB with him and getting some space for Amauri/Trez and Camo/Offensive RB.

On counter attacks if Diego/Giovinco loses the ball then I have my steady LB ready and Poulsen/Zanetti while on the right Sissoko check what's going on.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Anyway, my stance on this is that you don't say no to great players, no matter the system. I understand that CURRENTLY it will be a bit problematic to find a new winning formula and it may take some time for Diego to fit into our tactics, but we must think long-term.
The problem about Diego atm are Camoranesi and Nedved. If we get Diego now then one of them, or one of our attackers (Del Piero) will have to sit on the bench.
But Diego is 23 while Nedved is 36, Del Piero is 34 and Camoranesi is 32. Nedved will retire next year while Camo is versatile enough to fit into any other system (4-3-3, 4-3-1-2 etc). Plus, after a season or two Camoranesi and Del Piero probably won't be as good as they are now and the 4-4-2 may not work so well in 2010.

Not really.We look at Diego as Nedved's replacement next season so he doesn't have to sit on the bench.

I don't see how can Camo be a problem.

 

[Vinman]

another guy with more brains than our idiot coach-

Di Livio: Juve buy Diego! Thurday 11 December, 2008

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Former Juventus midfield general Angelo Di Livio has pleaded with his former club to sign Werder Bremen star Diego.

The Bianconeri have been repeatedly linked with the Brazilian starlet over the last 18 months, but a divide in the boardroom has stalled a move for his services.

Di Livio, who played for the Old Lady between 1993 and 1999, winning three Scudetti, believes the former Santos and Porto youngster would fit right into the club's 4-4-2 system.

“When I played for Juventus we played a 4-4-2 and Zinedine Zidane's arrival was decisive,” said Di Livio. “He used to play in an advanced role but he used to come back and defend also.

"[Marcello] Lippi was good as he understood the new system had enormous potential. Sacrifices were made and I think [Mauro] Camoranesi could still do the same job if Diego arrives.

"I like this Juve side and I think Diego could be a replacement for [Pavel] Nedved. Any system can be played if the players are intelligent enough.
"This team reminds me of my Bianconeri. They have a great spirit and I don't think there would be any problems if Diego arrives."

Diego has scored 12 goals in 12 appearances for Werder Bremen this season, but the German side are struggling in the Bundesliga and currently lie 10th.


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the players may be intelligent enough, but the coach is a bumbling idiot

 

[v1rtu4l]

you all talk as if diego had said that he wants to join us or bremen said they would sell him.

hell, he even did not give a slightest hint that he would like to play for us (just mentioning the league is not the same)

so stop bashing ranieri before he did anything wrong....

i am pretty sure that ranieri will agree to get diego, when he is for sale for a reasonable price ...

did you forget the van der vaart case ? he seemed to be eager to join juve and still we did not get him ... how are we going to get a player that is less keen to join us ?


i have the feeling that diego is another spain lover ...

those rumours are mostly from crapsites or do not have the origin in diego, so it is just papertalk

we will get him if it is possible, but bet that some english or spain team will offer him 2 m € more and he will walk to spain ...

 

[Dostoevsky]

Both can be done IMO.

Defensive LB & attacking RB and vice-versa.

If Diego loses the ball Sissoko/Polusen will help it and by saying that I am seeing our LB as not totally retarder person who can defend at all even if he's attacking-minded.

 

[Alen]

Not really.We look at Diego as Nedved's replacement next season so he doesn't have to sit on the bench.

I don't see how can Camo be a problem.

Diego as a direct replacement for Nedved is an unneeded experiment. In this case Camoranesi isn't a problem, i agree, but i doubt we'll get a lot from Diego if we play him on ML, even if Diego plays an AML that cuts in.

But if we get Diego we better use him where he can give his best, and that's right behind the strikers. That means that the formation will have to change to 4-3-1-2 and we won't play with wingers. This is a problem for Camo the MR, but like i said, he's versatile enough to take a more central role and also, again as i mentioned, in a year or more likely two years, Camo probably won't be the same player and he'll be replaced by someone else so there won't be a problem with playing 4-3-1-2.

 

[Dostoevsky]

you all talk as if diego had said that he wants to join us or bremen said they would sell him.

hell, he even did not give a slightest hint that he would like to play for us (just mentioning the league is not the same)

so stop bashing ranier before anything is clear....

i am pretty sure that ranieri will agree to get diego, when he is for sale for a reasonable price ...

did you forget the van der vaart case ? i have the feeling that diego is another spain lover ...

those rumours are mostly from crapsites or do not have the origin in diego, so it is just papertalk

we will get him if it is possible, but bet that some english or spain team will offer him 2 m € more and he will walk to spain ...

Look,anything can happen in transfer market but you can't be slow. (the way we were last year).

You must chase a player and give your best to sign him.

You are talking like we're Lecce or Modena.Why wouldn't he come?And why would he stay in Bremen?

We are among the top in Serie A and we are a doing good job in Champions League.I don't think he'd want to stay there forever.Secco can help,talk to him 100 times untill summer market,watch his games,make him a fu#king house in Torino or whatever it helps to convice him come here or sign a pre-contract.

Yeah,he can maybe adore Spanish sunset or English sky-high wages but that should not be a reason why to stop chasing some player and give your best to sign him.Especially if that player is Diego's quality.