David Trezeguet (28 Viewers)
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By your logic if Buffon is the best goalie in the world then he should concede the least goals every single season.
And sniffing out a chance to score is TALENT. yeah you get lucky 1-2-3 times but you don't get lucky every time.
And Rooney great fininshing? LMAO good one. He's a good player but his fininshing is nowhere close to RVN or Trez
and how can you say that Trez is an excellent striker but he's not one of the best? you don't make sense. Excellent means someone great who stands out. Trez plays for a world class team so how can a player that is excellent for a world class team not be a world class player? If Trez was excelling for Siena then you'd have a point but you are just contradicting yourself by your statement.
and Trez is as lucky as any other striker? dude then why aren't you and I playing for Juve since it's all about luck let's see if you can score 20 goals on average a season.
just let it go man. You are entitled to your opinion but you should not state your opinion as fact. you have clearly lost the argument here. There is no shame in losing an argument, especially in this case when you are clearly wrong. Drop the debate and save some face while you can because you are starting to lose credibility.
By your logic if Buffon is the best goalie in the world then he should concede the least goals every single season.
And sniffing out a chance to score is TALENT. yeah you get lucky 1-2-3 times but you don't get lucky every time.
And Rooney great fininshing? LMAO good one. He's a good player but his fininshing is nowhere close to RVN or Trez
and how can you say that Trez is an excellent striker but he's not one of the best? you don't make sense. Excellent means someone great who stands out. Trez plays for a world class team so how can a player that is excellent for a world class team not be a world class player? If Trez was excelling for Siena then you'd have a point but you are just contradicting yourself by your statement.
and Trez is as lucky as any other striker? dude then why aren't you and I playing for Juve since it's all about luck let's see if you can score 20 goals on average a season.
just let it go man. You are entitled to your opinion but you should not state your opinion as fact. you have clearly lost the argument here. There is no shame in losing an argument, especially in this case when you are clearly wrong. Drop the debate and save some face while you can because you are starting to lose credibility.
There is a big difference between those three. Trez is not best striker, but he is definitly best finisher. If he recieves ball in the box that is 99% goal, unlike Kanoute who is able to miss impossible, and I can't believe that you said that Kanoute is better finisher than Trez 
Another thing is that Trez managed to score 10 goals for us this season even we have very limited lineup when it comes to creativity, which means that his goals weren't served on a plate. We are very lucky to have a player like Trez, and many teams are lacking player like him (ManU, Arsenal... etc.)
Another thing is that Trez managed to score 10 goals for us this season even we have very limited lineup when it comes to creativity, which means that his goals weren't served on a plate. We are very lucky to have a player like Trez, and many teams are lacking player like him (ManU, Arsenal... etc.)
wells aid, i am not gonna even bother with someone who so badly needs to be right its embarrasing. for me when i look at trez i see a poacher, that is a rare talent to eb able to sniff out danger, to stand on teh shoulder of teh last man and predict where the ball will fal, to be able to get ONE chance and out it away. teh strikers i see that compare to trez are few and far between, pippo inzaghi is a great example of a limited player who sees things that others dont, the last guy i remember with that skill was klinsman, would you call jurgens whole career lucky as it sems that trez's was?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
wells aid, i am not gonna even bother with someone who so badly needs to be right its embarrasing. for me when i look at trez i see a poacher, that is a rare talent to eb able to sniff out danger, to stand on teh shoulder of teh last man and predict where the ball will fal, to be able to get ONE chance and out it away. teh strikers i see that compare to trez are few and far between, pippo inzaghi is a great example of a limited player who sees things that others dont, the last guy i remember with that skill was klinsman, would you call jurgens whole career lucky as it sems that trez's was?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
thats spot on bozi good post. and there are loads of examples of teams that desperatly needs a player of trez calibare: Manu utd and barcelona ( maher dont u start with me on this one). both teams have players who are able to break down defences but have trouble finishing off the move with a goal. they lack a finisher whose main job is to await inside the box and anticipate all the movements around him and then move in at the right time to score the goal.
@ juve_revoultion: the goals trez score might appear a piece of cake or a fluke but if u watch each goal from the begining u will find out its no easy job. u see trez has to position himself and predict where his next move will be in order to be clear for a header or a shooting oppurtunity. this my friend is called pure talent, and no not every one has it and finally its by no means luck!
There is a big difference between those three. Trez is not best striker, but he is definitly best finisher. If he recieves ball in the box that is 99% goal, unlike Kanoute who is able to miss impossible, and I can't believe that you said that Kanoute is better finisher than Trez
Another thing is that Trez managed to score 10 goals for us this season even we have very limited lineup when it comes to creativity, which means that his goals weren't served on a plate. We are very lucky to have a player like Trez, and many teams are lacking player like him (ManU, Arsenal... etc.)
Another thing is that Trez managed to score 10 goals for us this season even we have very limited lineup when it comes to creativity, which means that his goals weren't served on a plate. We are very lucky to have a player like Trez, and many teams are lacking player like him (ManU, Arsenal... etc.)
wells aid, i am not gonna even bother with someone who so badly needs to be right its embarrasing. for me when i look at trez i see a poacher, that is a rare talent to eb able to sniff out danger, to stand on teh shoulder of teh last man and predict where the ball will fal, to be able to get ONE chance and out it away. teh strikers i see that compare to trez are few and far between, pippo inzaghi is a great example of a limited player who sees things that others dont, the last guy i remember with that skill was klinsman, would you call jurgens whole career lucky as it sems that trez's was?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
there are many different types of strker a rooney/del pieor type of second striker who drops off and creates chances, a henry/ronaldo type striker who likes to pick the ball up and go at defenders or teh rarest kind who can see things others cant and be in the right place at the right time like trez/pippo. ask any manager if they would like a poacher and they would give their right arm for someone who only needs 1-2 chances, the are a rare breed and to write them off as simply lucky is foolhardy
vlatko, you have been remarkably quiet through al this, you feeling ok?
If you choose to believe that Trezeguet posses a magical ability to sniff out danger in the penalty box then believe that . It's not that he's a lucky player , it's that he's a player that plays insidethe penalty box for nearly the whole game so wouldn't you say that he has a better chance of finding the ball in good position inside the penalty are than Nedved for example ? It's not that he has a magical ability , it's simply his job to find these oppotunities inside the box . He's been doing it his whole life , and if were not good at it he wouldn't be at Juve . The funny thing is , he isn't the best at doing that either yet people here choose to think of him as a football god .
None of this even comes close to proving my point wrong and yet you think you've won some kind of argument . I said he isn't the best striker in the world and any one in his right mind would agree with me . I don't know why this has turned into an argument about his abilities . I never said he wasn't good , I just said he wasn't the best .
Bold part : Im sorry my man what you said made no sense at all and it's really obvious why . You want to argue for the sake of arguing . a player can be excellent and not one of the best , it's not a very difficult concept to understand .
The best in the world are simply incredible, the excellent are very good players but not the best . It's not a contradiction and I don't know why you can't see the clear difference between them .
If I said Iniesta is excellent does that mean he's the best in the world ?
Playing for Juve makes him the best ? Are you on crack ? Boumsong plays for us FFS . What kind of argument is that ?
Me and you aren't playing because we didn't join a club when we were 8 and trained every single day untill we were 28 . I think Trez himself would admit that he is where he is today because of his determination and hardwork and not because of his sheer skill and there's nothing wrong with that .
He scores 20 goals per season , ok dude , I hope you know what PER SEASON means . It means every season , if Trez did it twice or three times in his carreer that doesn't mean he scores 20 goals PER season . He scores goals , he's a very good player , I know that , but he's not the best , so how exactly have you proven my point wrong here ?
They don't appear a piece of cake at all , I never said it wasn't an easy job .
Many players posses this ability , Trezeguet may be very good at it but then again , he isn't the best is he ?
The best in the world are simply incredible, the excellent are very good players but not the best . It's not a contradiction and I don't know why you can't see the clear difference between them .
If I said Iniesta is excellent does that mean he's the best in the world ?
Playing for Juve makes him the best ? Are you on crack ? Boumsong plays for us FFS . What kind of argument is that ?
Me and you aren't playing because we didn't join a club when we were 8 and trained every single day untill we were 28 . I think Trez himself would admit that he is where he is today because of his determination and hardwork and not because of his sheer skill and there's nothing wrong with that .
He scores 20 goals per season , ok dude , I hope you know what PER SEASON means . It means every season , if Trez did it twice or three times in his carreer that doesn't mean he scores 20 goals PER season . He scores goals , he's a very good player , I know that , but he's not the best , so how exactly have you proven my point wrong here ?
They don't appear a piece of cake at all , I never said it wasn't an easy job .
Many players posses this ability , Trezeguet may be very good at it but then again , he isn't the best is he ?
