Of course they would have gone up had we won CL. That has nothing to do with Ronaldo. We were much closer to winning it before Ronaldo. Anyone who thought signing him would make us favourites was delusional.
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Doesn't matter if we were closer or not, winning it is what matters
But more importantly, when you are reaching finals or the later stages regularly, it means you are doing things right and need small improvements and a bit of luck to win it. When you get embarassed by shit teams in ro16 every year, even thinking about winning is ridiculous.
Revenue and exposure doesn't interest me, i'd rather have not played those finals instead of losing both and holding the record of 7 final losses.
Next year is our year, with Ronaldo it's possible. Just win with him 4-5 in row or something like this. He is holding all the records for CL, of course you are thinking about winning when you have him in your team.
Next year is our year, with Ronaldo it's possible. Just win with him 4-5 in row or something like this. He is holding all the records for CL, of course you are thinking about winning when you have him in your team.
You are right about revenue and exposure. They don't interest me either. I am not the owner. But they do affect the quality of players, so they do matter.
I know losing a final hurts a lot but that is just silly. Is Inter's record better than ours? One title and embarassment every year.
I don't believe we can win next year, unless we get Allegri. And even then it's not very likely. We need to think about long term and limit the damage.
I know losing a final hurts a lot but that is just silly. Is Inter's record better than ours? One title and embarassment every year.
I don't believe we can win next year, unless we get Allegri. And even then it's not very likely. We need to think about long term and limit the damage.
Actually yes, Inter's record is indeed better than ours.
That's the problem with this club, every statement is "we wanna make the final and see what happens". This shit is programming for failure. Another reason why I want Chiellini out ASAP, he is the epitome of a settler mindset of toxic Calcio culture.
Losing a final and going out in groups is the same shit plus-minus money.
That's the problem with this club, every statement is "we wanna make the final and see what happens". This shit is programming for failure. Another reason why I want Chiellini out ASAP, he is the epitome of a settler mindset of toxic Calcio culture.
Losing a final and going out in groups is the same shit plus-minus money.
We were clear underdogs in both finals. We choked in 2003 though.
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We met two of the best teams in the last decade in their peak form. Barca beat the English, French and German champions on their way before meeting us in the final.
Madrid on the other hand had Ronaldo in the form of his life. We're also talking about a Madrid squad that had James, Bale and Morata on the bench.
These are also two teams that have an amazing record in finals.
We played one final where we were not even considered a European heavyweight to begin with and another final where we weren't considered favorites especially coming up against a far superior squad so the choke scenario doesn't apply here.
Besides 9 out of 10 times you'll see the much richer and superior squad winning the final atleast in the last 15-20 years.
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We met two of the best teams in the last decade in their peak form. Barca beat the English, French and German champions on their way before meeting us in the final.
Madrid on the other hand had Ronaldo in the form of his life. We're also talking about a Madrid squad that had James, Bale and Morata on the bench.
These are also two teams that have an amazing record in finals.
We played one final where we were not even considered a European heavyweight to begin with and another final where we weren't considered favorites especially coming up against a far superior squad so the choke scenario doesn't apply here.
Besides 9 out of 10 times you'll see the much richer and superior squad winning the final atleast in the last 15-20 years.
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We got outplayed by a better team for the first 25-30 minutes against Barca. And then managed to get a foothold and controlled the match for the next 45 minutes. Tied it up, and they scored on a counterattack while we were pressing for the winning goal.
And no it’s not the exact same scenario. We controlled almost the entire first half in 2017, Ronaldo scored against the run of play for Madrid and we quickly tied it up. We were the better and “proactive” side for the entire first half, and then after Pjanic and Mandzukic picked up knocks and Zidane made half time adjustments they destroyed us in the second half.
If you’re going to rag on performances at least have some idea of what exactly went on.
Stop posting pathetic loser crap and get a maid. The only final we choked was 1997. All the other finals were either even money or we were underdogs. Yes, out record in CL finals and ECC finals is pathetic but that's no reason for a meltdown. Games from the Lippi era or the 70s have no relevance on today.
Evidently. I don't know why this moaning against Pirlo then. Sure we are not winning the Scudetto but after 9 years in a row aren't we sick of it.
Pirlo is doing a good job. He is avoiding embarassing losses in finals by smartly exiting early. He might do even better and avoid the embarassment of elimination all together by finishing outside the top 5. After all, if exiting early is better than being second then not playing is even better.
Pirlo is doing a good job. He is avoiding embarassing losses in finals by smartly exiting early. He might do even better and avoid the embarassment of elimination all together by finishing outside the top 5. After all, if exiting early is better than being second then not playing is even better.