Cristiano Ronaldo (138 Viewers)

[Lapa]

Same reason why he should get the fuck outta here.

 

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[JCK]

Let's see, 2018 was the summer we bought Ronaldo. At that point we were a team that was close to the top, so we added Ronaldo to make that difference. That summer we had:

Szczesny
MDS Benatia Chiellini AS
Cuads Khedira Pjanic Matuidi
Dybala Higuain

Buffon
Licht Caldara Rugani Spina
DC Bentancur Sturaro Asamoah
Berna Mandzu

So we let Buffon, Asa (to inter of all teams), Licht walk. We got Cancelo so we had the Licht departure covered. Asa was replaced already by Spinazzola so that's also OK. We paid 14M for a backup keeper even though we got the last two for free who were more proven arguably (Neto, Szczesny). Khedira was kinda finished so instead of going for a reinforcement we got a freebie in Can (who was expensive too at 16M and 5M wages), who was rotation level for us. But then we spent 35M on a CB (Bonucci) while we let inter get De Vrij for free. We failed to sell Higuain in the same transaction that liberated Milan from Bonucci and his heavy wages and gave them a (at that time) promising young domestic CB to pair with Romagnoli, so that's another failure

Szczesny
Cancelo Bonucci Chiellini AS
Can Pjanic Matuidi
Dybala Mandzukic Ronaldo

Perin
MDS Benatia Rugani Spina
Cuadrado Khedira Bentancur DC
Berna Kean

We lost to Ajax due to injuries and fatigue. We lost Benatia and replaced him with a Caceres who hasn't played in a while, so when Chiellini went down it left us with a not ready Rugani to step in. In the summer we got De Ligt and Demiral so that's a good fix there, but the midfield was still bad. Ramsey and Rabiot for free were decent additions, if we had a starting midfield in place and needed depth. But we overpaid in wages and will have trouble selling now. We decided to ruin the one area we actually fixed successfully, so we sold both Cancelo and Spinazzola. Danilo was a expensive replacement himself and right now even when he's good, he looks the best away from the RB position in midfield or at CB. We got Pellegrini as well, but he might never play here. We also spent some 30M on Romero, another guy that was never to play here. Then we loaned out our 14M backup keeper and brought back Buffon, who we just let walk a summer before. Higuain was back as well and Kean was plusvalenzaed. Then we told Mandzu he wont play anymore when the season begun, instead of selling him before. And we sold Can in January because we couldn't sell Matuidi or Khedira, then spent 40M on a 19 yo winger who so far hasn't lived up to his potential.

Szczesny
Cuads De Ligt Bonucci AS
Ramsey Pjanic Rabiot
Dybala Higuain Ronaldo

Buffon
Danilo Demiral Rugani Chiellini MDS
Khedira Bentancur Matuidi
Berna DC

Which leads us to the last summer, we terminated contracts of the expensive old guys we failed to sell in previous mercatos, Higuain and Matuidi (Sami in January), we raised plusvalenza on our best mid just to overpay for another mid, younger worse version of himself, got a unproven kid from Schalke who could end up costing us up to 30M. Chiesa was a great deal even at 60M and Morata was a good panic buy after we failed to land Dzeko or Suarez (but could potentially cost us 50M as a 30yo with a sickness, if our option is a gentlemans obligation). And most importantly we experimented with coaches along the way.


tl;dr we downgraded ourselves annually, and we spent big money on the way of doing it. How we did it? By looking at random market opportunities and fishing for plusvalenza instead of focusing on building/retaining a functional team once we landed Ronaldo. The guy has nothing to do with it, it's the fools making those random deals that are at fault

 

[Nedved96]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56483572

Quotes from portuguese pundits

I have learned that sometimes in life, you just have to be patient and wait for the truth to come out.

The truth is that building the team around Ronaldo is a mistake and terrible long-term planning from Juventus.

I cannot prove it definitively right now, so I just have to wait for it all to unfold.

 

[Robee]

I have learned that sometimes in life, you just have to be patient and wait for the truth to come out.

The truth is that building the team around Ronaldo is a mistake and terrible long-term planning from Juventus.

I cannot prove it definitively right now, so I just have to wait for it all to unfold.

It wasn't. The building around him simply never actually happened in a half decent way despite spending big bucks. He went from Khedira-Matuidi to Bentancur-Rabiot...

But now, in our current situation, we definitely need him to go as we simply do not have the resources to give him enough support.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Playing a lot better on ther left hand side of the front 3 tonight, some good dribbles and threw passes. Although he missed 2 good positioned freekicks, and then finally got one on target, forcing a good save from Azerbaijan gk lol. Just like here, he's refusing to allow the better freekick players take one.

 

[Nedved96]

It wasn't. The building around him simply never actually happened in a half decent way despite spending big bucks. He went from Khedira-Matuidi to Bentancur-Rabiot...

The problem is more than just the midfield, it’s the way in which we attack as a team.

 

[Snobist]

He scored nice goals vs Azarbaijan

 

[Adrian]

The problem is more than just the midfield, it’s the way in which we attack as a team.

Exactly...the team is so out of whack tactically and the area that suffers most is midfield then it is a snowball effect for the forwards and defense.

 

[Robee]

The problem is more than just the midfield, it’s the way in which we attack as a team.

'though I can agree to an extent you're using the arguement to make the wrong point'.

We're the team that has the most chances in Italy. That would even improve with a better midfield and left back. All the knee jerk reactions we're seeing now, would go out the door. And the problem is also not the guy scoring almost every single game.

 

[Strickland]

The problem is more than just the midfield, it’s the way in which we attack as a team.

yeah, but we haven't built the team around Ronaldo. bringing in Marcelo right away instead of Sandro would be building the team around Ronaldo, he's easily contained when there's no one wide to play with. keeping Mandzukic instead of Dybala would be building the team around Ronaldo, I'm sure he'd prefer a mad pressing CF that keeps the defense occupied instead of another player who wants the ball at his feet on the edge of the box. the only pro-Ronaldo move we've done on the market is bring in Morata last summer, but even that isn't a long term move, we might as well not buy him in 2022.

 

[Hust]

Ronaldo would like at least a player with the characteristics of Benzema or at least a midfielder who plays a forward pass. Now he wants to end the season in the best possible way by bringing home the Coppa Italia and finishing the top 4.

The club is waiting for the end of the season and knows that when it comes to a top player of this level, he is the one to make the final decision. For this reason, they have 2 plans: A: Build the future market around Cristiano B: Save 87mln in wages

Gazzetta dello Sport

 

[zizinho]

Ronaldo would like at least a player with the characteristics of Benzema or at least a midfielder who plays a forward pass. Now he wants to end the season in the best possible way by bringing home the Coppa Italia and finishing the top 4.

The club is waiting for the end of the season and knows that when it comes to a top player of this level, he is the one to make the final decision. For this reason, they have 2 plans: A: Build the future market around Cristiano B: Save 87mln in wages

Gazzetta dello Sport

 

[Elvin]

at least a midfielder who plays a forward pass.

We are an embarassment

 

[Bianconero81]

Ronaldo is making demands?

Ah, it's that time of year again when journalists are bored and have nothing to write about, when their integrity is at an even lower level than usual.

 

[maxi]

[Sky Sport]: Perez is not willing to make any attempt to bring Ronaldo back to Madrid

Se queda

 

[zizinho]

Meaning he can't

 

[Nedved96]

The club is waiting for the end of the season and knows that when it comes to a top player of this level, he is the one to make the final decision. For this reason, they have 2 plans: A: Build the future market around Cristiano B: Save 87mln in wages

Save the wages.

Building a future around a player who has declined massively and is 36 years old simply isn't worth it.

Nowadays Ronaldo isn't a better player than Higuain was in his prime, and nobody right in their mind would offer Higuain even 40mln let alone 87mln.

 

[JuveJay]

Meaning he can't

Not with Bale and Hazard on their books and a host of Brazilian kids.

 

[Lion]

Save the wages.

Building a future around a player who has declined massively and is 36 years old simply isn't worth it.

Nowadays Ronaldo isn't a better player than Higuain was in his prime, and nobody right in their mind would offer Higuain even 40mln let alone 87mln.

how can you say declined massively when he has 30 goals and 4 assists in 34 matches? he pretty much guarantees a goal or assist per game. no player aside from messi and lewandowski are that consistent.

he's also the leading top scorer in serie a with 23 goals. ahead of lukaku who is with 19.

 

[Nedved96]

how can you say declined massively when he has 30 goals and 4 assists in 34 matches? he pretty much guarantees a goal or assist per game. no player aside from messi and lewandowski are that consistent.

he's also the leading top scorer in serie a with 23 goals. ahead of lukaku who is with 19.

Higuain had fairly similar numbers in his first season here, and that was without taking 15 penalties per season. Was Higuain ever worth anywhere near 87mln?