Cristiano Ronaldo (90 Viewers)

[Lion]

fyi juventus pays aaron ramsey 225k pounds per week.
Rabiot earns 225K pounds per week.
Bernardeschi is on 90K pounds per week
Arthur is on 190K pounds per week
Bonucci is on 190K pounds per week
Sandro is on 55K pounds per week
De Siglio is on 55K pounds per week
Douglas costa 184K pounds per week
Matuidi 104K pounds per week



Modric earns 210K pounds per week.
Toni Kroos earns 210K pounds per week.
Marcelo earns 150K pounds per week.
Benzema is on 166K pounds per week
Carvajal is on 155K pounds per week
Casmiero is on 90K pounds per week
Ramos is on 312k pounds per week

you can see that our salary of key players during ronaldo's juve is similar to key players to ronaldo's madrid. difference being our high earners are mostly terrible. ramsey and rabiot make more than casmiero, modric, and kroos. while we have costa, DS, Berna, and Sandro as usless players earning total of same amount as Ramos.

hopefully that puts an end to juvetnus cannot afford salary because of ronaldo myth.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

fyi juventus pays aaron ramsey 400k pounds per week.
Rabiot earns 225K pounds per week.
Bernardeschi is on 90K pounds per week
Arthur is on 190K pounds per week
Bonucci is on 190K pounds per week
Sandro is on 55K pounds per week
De Siglio is on 55K pounds per week
Douglas costa 184K pounds per week
Matuidi 104K pounds per week



Modric earns 210K pounds per week.
Toni Kroos earns 210K pounds per week.
Marcelo earns 150K pounds per week.
Benzema is on 166K pounds per week
Carvajal is on 155K pounds per week
Casmiero is on 90K pounds per week
Ramos is on 312k pounds per week

you can see that our salary of key players during ronaldo's juve is similar to key players to ronaldo's madrid. difference being our high earners are mostly terrible. ramsey and rabiot make more than casmiero, modric, and kroos. while we have costa, DS, Berna, and Sandro as usless players earning total of same amount as Ramos.

hopefully that puts an end to juvetnus cannot afford salary because of ronaldo myth.

This must be wrong. There's no way Ramsey makes more than Ramos.

 

[Nedved96]

I don’t believe those wages for one second.

Real Madrid generate double the revenue of Juventus. There’s no way we can afford the exact same wages as them.

 

[IlCapitano]

This must be wrong. There's no way Ramsey makes more than Ramos.

Half of that, 400k is not true. Still way too much for what he's giving. But others are correct.

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I don’t believe those wages for one second.

Real Madrid generate double the revenue of Juventus. There’s no way we can afford the exact same wages as them.

RM have a very clear wage hierarchy and structure. Maybe not true to the cent, but very very close.

 

[Lion]

This must be wrong. There's no way Ramsey makes more than Ramos.

I don’t believe those wages for one second.

Real Madrid generate double the revenue of Juventus. There’s no way we can afford the exact same wages as them.

you might be right.

this site is saying salaries are higher than i mentioned. maybe this is gross? the one i got from might be net. not sure.

https://salarysport.com/football/la-liga/real-madrid/
https://sillyseason.com/money/salary/real-madrid-players-salaries-69080/

they both have different amounts.

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here is the juve one. i think ramsey is same as rabiot 225K pounds. at least this site seems to think so

https://sillyseason.com/money/salary/juventus-players-salaries-69069/

 

[s4tch]

net salaries based on gazzetta:
https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2020/10/10/stipendi-juventus-2020-2021-ronaldo-chiesa/

• Ronaldo 31
• De Ligt 8
• Dybala 7,3
• Rabiot 7
• Ramsey 7
• Bonucci 6,5
• Szczesny 6,5
• Alex Sandro 6
• Arthur 5
• Chiesa 5
• Cuadrado 5
• Morata 5
• Bernardeschi 4
• Danilo 4
• Chiellini 3,5
• Bentancur 2,5
• Kulusevski 2,5
• McKennie 2,5
• Demiral 1,8
• Buffon 1,5
• Pinsoglio 0,3
• Frabotta 0,1

thing is that the marked players (so basically everyone bar berna and pinso) either arrived after we signed cr, or signed their last contract after cr's arrival.

the mantra of "juve stopped spending after cr arrived" is simply inaccurate. we spent a shitload of money on salaries, transfers and signing/agent fees since we signed ronaldo. with a very few exceptions, most of our players wouldn't get nowhere near this money at any other club.

 

[Gigiventus]

you might be right.

this site is saying salaries are higher than i mentioned. maybe this is gross? the one i got from might be net. not sure.

https://salarysport.com/football/la-liga/real-madrid/
https://sillyseason.com/money/salary/real-madrid-players-salaries-69080/

they both have different amounts.

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here is the juve one. i think ramsey is same as rabiot 225K pounds. at least this site seems to think so

https://sillyseason.com/money/salary/juventus-players-salaries-69069/

Ramos makes almost twice what Ramsey does. He is in more than anyone in our squad except for Ronaldo.

https://as.com/futbol/2021/01/05/primera/1609854285_437609.html

12m net

 

[Lion]

Ramos makes almost twice what Ramsey does. He is in more than anyone in our squad except for Ronaldo.

https://as.com/futbol/2021/01/05/primera/1609854285_437609.html

12m net

he makes the same net, as Rugani + De Siglio + Douglas Costa+ Berna combined?

thats a problem for us. we waste the salary of a super player on 4 players who are not even needed.

 

[Nedved96]

the mantra of "juve stopped spending after cr arrived" is simply inaccurate. we spent a shitload of money on salaries, transfers and signing/agent fees since we signed ronaldo. with a very few exceptions, most of our players wouldn't get nowhere near this money at any other club.

We are spending after CR7 arrived, we just aren't spending as much as we could if we didn't spend $350m on him. It really is that simple.

We are penny-pinching in midfield because we can't afford studs like Milinkovic-Savic and Aouar.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Ramsey and Rabiot on €7m is still baffling

 

[s4tch]

We are spending after CR7 arrived, we just aren't spending as much as we could if we didn't spend $350m on him. It really is that simple.

We are penny-pinching in midfield because we can't afford studs like Milinkovic-Savic and Aouar.

we are NOT penny pinching in midfield at all. arthur costs 72m and earns 5m net, two others earn 7m net (both guys are top10 earners in the league).

we are just spending the money like idiots. barella is a very good example: he earns 2,5m net, cost inda 40m for 5 years, that's around ~12m per season, amortization and gross wages included. rabiot and ramsey cost around 13-14m each, arthur costs above 20m, who are we kidding, these are ridiculous numbers for their contributions. and that's barella, a relatively expensive, 40m player. milan bought bennacer for 16m, he earns 1,5m, and when he's not injured, he shits on our cm's. i'm lazy and it's quarter past 11, wanna do the math yourself for kessié or locatelli?

 

[Lion]

Ramsey and Rabiot on €7m is still baffling

Arthur on 190K per week lmao.

but no, don't spend money on haaland.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Ramsey and Rabiot on €7m is still baffling

 

[Nedved96]

we are NOT penny pinching in midfield at all. arthur costs 72m and earns 5m net, two others earn 7m net (both guys are top10 earners in the league).

Nope nope nope nope. Not this again.

Arthur was a money laundering scheme. His transfer just shows how desperate we are financially.

All our midfielders combined (Arthur, Bentancur, Rabiot, Ramsey, McKennie) command a total transfer fee of approximately 40m, or 9m per midfielder on average.

 

[PhRoZeN]

https://www.football-italia.net/168137/video-what-ronaldo-told-pepe-during-juve-porto

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CMut...d&ig_mid=DD336093-8A5C-47E9-B30E-0E7C3088924F


There can be only one winner, not sure what Ronaldo meant here..

 

[Strickland]

fyi juventus pays aaron ramsey 225k pounds per week.
Rabiot earns 225K pounds per week.
Bernardeschi is on 90K pounds per week
Arthur is on 190K pounds per week
Bonucci is on 190K pounds per week
Sandro is on 55K pounds per week
De Siglio is on 55K pounds per week
Douglas costa 184K pounds per week
Matuidi 104K pounds per week



Modric earns 210K pounds per week.
Toni Kroos earns 210K pounds per week.
Marcelo earns 150K pounds per week.
Benzema is on 166K pounds per week
Carvajal is on 155K pounds per week
Casmiero is on 90K pounds per week
Ramos is on 312k pounds per week

you can see that our salary of key players during ronaldo's juve is similar to key players to ronaldo's madrid. difference being our high earners are mostly terrible. ramsey and rabiot make more than casmiero, modric, and kroos. while we have costa, DS, Berna, and Sandro as usless players earning total of same amount as Ramos.

hopefully that puts an end to juvetnus cannot afford salary because of ronaldo myth.

https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFile...lublicensing/02/64/06/95/2640695_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Page 89, RM wage bill for season 2017/18 was 431m (57% of their revenue) and ours was 261m (65% of our revenue). Three seasons have passed and a couple of things have changed, according to gazetta, our wage bill has grown from 164 net in 2017/18 to 236 net in 2020/21, that's about 370m gross. No idea were to look for reliable RM salary data, but we've definitely gotten close to them these past 3 years salary wise, even if revenue wise it's a different story.

 

[zizinho]

Let's see, 2018 was the summer we bought Ronaldo. At that point we were a team that was close to the top, so we added Ronaldo to make that difference. That summer we had:

Szczesny
MDS Benatia Chiellini AS
Cuads Khedira Pjanic Matuidi
Dybala Higuain

Buffon
Licht Caldara Rugani Spina
DC Bentancur Sturaro Asamoah
Berna Mandzu

So we let Buffon, Asa (to inter of all teams), Licht walk. We got Cancelo so we had the Licht departure covered. Asa was replaced already by Spinazzola so that's also OK. We paid 14M for a backup keeper even though we got the last two for free who were more proven arguably (Neto, Szczesny). Khedira was kinda finished so instead of going for a reinforcement we got a freebie in Can (who was expensive too at 16M and 5M wages), who was rotation level for us. But then we spent 35M on a CB (Bonucci) while we let inter get De Vrij for free. We failed to sell Higuain in the same transaction that liberated Milan from Bonucci and his heavy wages and gave them a (at that time) promising young domestic CB to pair with Romagnoli, so that's another failure

Szczesny
Cancelo Bonucci Chiellini AS
Can Pjanic Matuidi
Dybala Mandzukic Ronaldo

Perin
MDS Benatia Rugani Spina
Cuadrado Khedira Bentancur DC
Berna Kean

We lost to Ajax due to injuries and fatigue. We lost Benatia and replaced him with a Caceres who hasn't played in a while, so when Chiellini went down it left us with a not ready Rugani to step in. In the summer we got De Ligt and Demiral so that's a good fix there, but the midfield was still bad. Ramsey and Rabiot for free were decent additions, if we had a starting midfield in place and needed depth. But we overpaid in wages and will have trouble selling now. We decided to ruin the one area we actually fixed successfully, so we sold both Cancelo and Spinazzola. Danilo was a expensive replacement himself and right now even when he's good, he looks the best away from the RB position in midfield or at CB. We got Pellegrini as well, but he might never play here. We also spent some 30M on Romero, another guy that was never to play here. Then we loaned out our 14M backup keeper and brought back Buffon, who we just let walk a summer before. Higuain was back as well and Kean was plusvalenzaed. Then we told Mandzu he wont play anymore when the season begun, instead of selling him before. And we sold Can in January because we couldn't sell Matuidi or Khedira, then spent 40M on a 19 yo winger who so far hasn't lived up to his potential.

Szczesny
Cuads De Ligt Bonucci AS
Ramsey Pjanic Rabiot
Dybala Higuain Ronaldo

Buffon
Danilo Demiral Rugani Chiellini MDS
Khedira Bentancur Matuidi
Berna DC

Which leads us to the last summer, we terminated contracts of the expensive old guys we failed to sell in previous mercatos, Higuain and Matuidi (Sami in January), we raised plusvalenza on our best mid just to overpay for another mid, younger worse version of himself, got a unproven kid from Schalke who could end up costing us up to 30M. Chiesa was a great deal even at 60M and Morata was a good panic buy after we failed to land Dzeko or Suarez (but could potentially cost us 50M as a 30yo with a sickness, if our option is a gentlemans obligation). And most importantly we experimented with coaches along the way.


tl;dr we downgraded ourselves annually, and we spent big money on the way of doing it. How we did it? By looking at random market opportunities and fishing for plusvalenza instead of focusing on building/retaining a functional team once we landed Ronaldo. The guy has nothing to do with it, it's the fools making those random deals that are at fault

 

[X Æ A-12]

Ramsey and Rabiot on €7m is still baffling

Wait but that's even more than Khedira got and he was less useless than them?!

 

[Pegi]

Stupidity has reached new heights. Reading something like this is more exhausting than being on traffic lights.

 

[s4tch]

Nope nope nope nope. Not this again.

Arthur was a money laundering scheme. His transfer just shows how desperate we are financially.

All our midfielders combined (Arthur, Bentancur, Rabiot, Ramsey, McKennie) command a total transfer fee of approximately 40m, or 9m per midfielder on average.

just to be clear, i had this discussion before with @kappa96 over multiple threads, so i won't go there once again. let's just state that you're factually wrong on arthur, and you also discount wages and signing fees as part of player costs. we should forget rating transfers based on transfer fees only. some freebies are much more expensive than other, non-bosman transfers, see my comparison about barella, bennacer and our allegedly penny pinching "freebies" (and you can add emre can to that list too with his enormous agent costs).