Cristiano Ronaldo (122 Viewers)

[Elvin]

Elvin's posts are an absolute eyesore ffs.

Bye.

Put me on ignore.

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I really want to understand this Juventus 'mental block' in Europe.

We are not cursed in Europe like some like to put across but there are a plethora of reasons as to why a club of Juve's standard has 'underperformed' in Europe.

I can only speak for our current generation though as I've watched Juventus play only 2 finals and I can list some of the reasons.

1. Financial stability not at the level of elite clubs although it's no excuse to beat inferior teams, we haven't had sustained consistency in Europe because we have come up against richer stacked squads in Europe. Often you need that extra edge to beat these stacked teams. We dint have that atleast in the early years of the Marotta era.

2. This 'ask to leave' policy although it probably goes in hand with financial stability. Had we kept Pogba and bought Higuain in the summer of 2016, we would've probably ended up winning CL. Selling your best players every summer isn't going to make you a consistent top team in CL.

3. Many of the 'old guard' haven't tasted European success and more often been on the losing end. It's kinda how Napoli has collapsed mentally in the league after running us close for a couple of years.

4. Pathetic recruitment in the Ronaldo era. Pathetic decisions in terms of squad planning and appointing managers. Making senior players too comfortable by giving them contract extensions, recruiting coaches and players with no personality or a solid track record of winning. If we dint have a regression like we've seen over the past couple of seasons, we'd be easily overcoming these lesser teams.

5. I'm just speculating here but management might be 'content' with the scudetto safety net and winning in Europe might not be seen as a 'priority'. The reason behind bringing Ronaldo might be purely marketing, improving image of club(revenue as well) and the league and less to do with winning a CL. Just speculating....

The part about making senior players too comfortable is spot on.

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We haven't been in the elite European clubs for the last 3 years judging by our CL record, but Milan hasn't been anywhere near the CL elite for over a decade and yet they're still considered an elite European club historically. That makes no sense to me, but it's Cassano.

Because 7 is a lot more than 2. Should be obvious.

They havent been relevant for over a decade but are still 2 winningest team in CL. That's the reason nothing else.

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LOL at people expecting

Lol.

People should stop wondering about the lack of UCL success because it so damn difficult to win. There really ain't odds for anybody winning it, you really can't say in advance for anybody to be a "favourite". City has spent billions, Man Utd has problably done the same since their last win and so on. Barca won their last UCL 6 years ago and they're dissapointed after every season they don't make it(just like they should be). There's only 1 winner and dozen's of dissapointed clubs after all these billions that are flying around for strenghtening the team.

What RM did shouldn't happen. They were so damn close to get eliminated so many times, but things just went their way somehow. Ronaldo was crucial there, Ramos of course and of course they had the core, but it still doesn't guarantee anything. It's the biggest sport with the most money involved so expect things not being easy. When we finally win it someday, it feels so damn good that i don't care about the previous x amount of years we failed the expectation of winning it.

Of course there are no guarantees BUT the club shall TRY to win it. Bayern lost the 99 final made it an obsession and won in 01, same think in 12-13. Milan got obsessed of avenging 05 and won in 07. Real was obsessed with Decima and won in 14. You gotta keep your good players, add better ones and obsess until you win it. Not have your gentlemanly captains hugging everyone like idiots.

 

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[zizinho]

We agree Mendes' daughter

 

[IlCapitano]

 

[zizinho]

Finally some good news

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

He still right though. His comments are accurate.

He put Milan on the same level as Bayern, he loses all credibility at that point.

 

[Siamak]

 

[zizinho]

Guys, did Ronaldo post anything after the Porto game? @juve123 ?

 

[Cerval]

 

[Suns]

I wonder what Agnelli and Exor feel about this investment? They thought they'd get 4 years of success with Ronaldo but instead we got less competitive, Covid happened and our finances went to shit and we didn't manage to maximize his commercial value,, nowhere close to CL and Ronaldo will end up playing more games without Juve fans on the stands than with fans.

 

[Elvin]

He put Milan on the same level as Bayern, he loses all credibility at that point.

Well they are, historically.

 

[Lion]

is it not mind blowing how ronaldo has almost 270 million instagram followers?

thats more followers than some big countries population like pakistan, mexico, brazil, canada, england.

 

[ronaldo99]

All this criticism is enough to feed the beast for the next 3 months. He'll win the Golden Boot. You heard it here 1st.

 

[BayernFan]

Put me on ignore.

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The part about making senior players too comfortable is spot on.

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Because 7 is a lot more than 2. Should be obvious.

They havent been relevant for over a decade but are still 2 winningest team in CL. That's the reason nothing else.

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Of course there are no guarantees BUT the club shall TRY to win it. Bayern lost the 99 final made it an obsession and won in 01, same think in 12-13. Milan got obsessed of avenging 05 and won in 07. Real was obsessed with Decima and won in 14. You gotta keep your good players, add better ones and obsess until you win it. Not have your gentlemanly captains hugging everyone like idiots.

It can also become too big an obsession, just saying.

Winning the CL is hardly something you can plan, you can only prepare as good as possible and get the right team. Only one club can win it every year, all the other 5-10 top clubs will be dissapointed it wasn't them.

 

[Adrian]

Cassano was the biggest waste of talent...mentally weak and very much an all round dumb cunt.

The club needs to come out and state they can afford to keep ronaldo without it impacting other deals.

 

[Bianconero81]

The Ronaldo "Experiment" may have been a commercial success (I don't have the figures), but on the field it has been an abject failure.

 

[Nedved96]

https://app.football-italia.net/?re...t#article/footballitalia-167643&menu=news-all

Cassano is such a peace of shit, but maybe this time he is right.

“Out of these players, aside from Gigi Buffon and Ronaldo, who in that squad has won the Champions League or World Cup? Nobody!”

We are missing the winning mentality of this man:

 

[Xperd]

“Out of these players, aside from Gigi Buffon and Ronaldo, who in that squad has won the Champions League or World Cup? Nobody!”

We are missing the winning mentality of this man:

He literally had no part in that CL win

 

[Elvin]

It can also become too big an obsession, just saying.

Winning the CL is hardly something you can plan, you can only prepare as good as possible and get the right team. Only one club can win it every year, all the other 5-10 top clubs will be dissapointed it wasn't them.

Thats all we ask, all we ask is that our club prioritiezes it instead of getting stuck in comfort zone and being happy with domestic success. Kovac won the Bundesliga but everyone and their mother knew he wasnt enough. Same for Guardiola.

 

[Juliano13]

The Ronaldo "Experiment" may have been a commercial success (I don't have the figures), but on the field it has been an abject failure.

We are broke, but other than that sure.

 

[juve123]

It can also become too big an obsession, just saying.

Winning the CL is hardly something you can plan, you can only prepare as good as possible and get the right team. Only one club can win it every year, all the other 5-10 top clubs will be dissapointed it wasn't them.

But bayern Munich management does things differently like sacking Kovac in the early part of the season despite his domestic double or moving on the old guard like robben and ribery