Cristiano Ronaldo (158 Viewers)

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Well, he's a poacher like no one else out there, he knows to to score from very little he gets. Other than that he drags them with his sheer willingness and competitiveness. That stuff can get you only so far, he's not the same player anymore. United are suffering from the same disease Juve did: everyone plays for Ronaldo, nobody takes responsibility anymore. For sure many of their fans think otherwise but luckily it's not our problem.

In Portugal he'd score shitload of goals, in EPL they're on a downward spiral.
The disease is poor coaching/tactics. Everyone playing to Ronaldo and doing so poorly is a symptom of a bad tactical plan not the disease.

He has been a different player for a few years, increasingly managing his energy levels and becoming more of a poacher and less of a creator. But he is the greatest poacher of all time and it didn't stop him or Madrid from winning everything.

He just went from a poorly managed juve to a poorly managed united and in both cases he is one of the few players actually delivering consistently

It's actually not very different from Messi with Argentina. The game plan is to do everything through Messi, and despite carrying the team he gets the blame. Bad tactics is the disease there too.
 

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Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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The disease is poor coaching/tactics. Everyone playing to Ronaldo and doing so poorly is a symptom of a bad tactical plan not the disease.

He has been a different player for a few years, increasingly managing his energy levels and becoming more of a poacher and less of a creator. But he is the greatest poacher of all time and it didn't stop him or Madrid from winning everything.

He just went from a poorly managed juve to a poorly managed united and in both cases he is one of the few players actually delivering consistently

It's actually not very different from Messi with Argentina. The game plan is to do everything through Messi, and despite carrying the team he gets the blame. Bad tactics is the disease there too.
United are worse than last year though.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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United are worse than last year though.
Something about big teams is that when they don't meet expectations they tend to drop multiple levels. The signings of this year raised expectations and because ole is not a top manager they got crushed under it. When teams are expected to win and things don't click they collapse. Ole could do well as long as expectations were just top 4. Same for Lampard. Chelsea now looks similar.

That's why atalanta and napoli can outperform us. Their expectations are lower they don't have the same pressures.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Man United are spending themselves into a hole trying to keep up with Man City.
We don’t really have an opponent like that in Italy.
you're trying to make it seem like it's La Liga 5-10 years ago where Real Madrid and Barcelona would always finish on 90+ points and someone would end up 2nd.

The reality for ManUnited is that since Fergie left they haven't been in a title race, their standart result has been ~70 points finish. ManCity is 2 games in a season, for all the money they've spent, they're doing incredibly poor.
 

Pegi

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Feb 22, 2019
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Ronaldo saying like it is. Nowdays people and youngsters are so vulnerable and thinking they know everything by themselves just because they had google to "figure" things out.

Wish everyone had the mindset of Ronaldo. Football would look so much better and clubs wouldn't be paying players for nothing.
 

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