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Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
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Co-ownership deal is pretty system IMHO. Under the traditional loan system, lower tier teams have incentive to favor old established stars who can help them out immediately, since they won't accrue any benefits from development of youngsters. Co-owernship is a system that has been designed to solve such incentive problems and at the same time (with more cynical reasons) allow teams to pamper with their books. Personally, I don't buy this liquid stuff argument whereby teams generate quick cash flow, since (1) feeder team rarely has big cash to spend and (2) youngsters rarely cost much anyway. Hence, any cash generated by these deals will be marginal at best.

Now JuveGer hits the main point cogently. Co-owernship won't be necessary if the big teams had their own in-house feeders clubs in lower division. Under such structure big teams will have opportunity to give their youngsters good competitive games, and at the same time keep the benefits by themselves. Unfortunately, for us anyway, with the co-ownership we will ultimately have to share the benefit of youngsters development with other teams. In the case of Cristico, the kid has developed beyond our imagination (presumably, since I havent seen him play in action), hence the price happened to larger than we anticipated. With the benefit of hindsight, I am pretty sure our management would not have sold half of his contract so cheaply. But hindsight is 20/20 and you cant run the club based on hindsights.

Personally, I liked what the management did with Cristico. If they let the process drag on till the blind auction then there is a possibility that we might be overbid by Genoa with the aid of Milan or Inter, just as we did to Roma on Chiellini. With youngsters it is rarely hard to estimate true market value since there arent many comparable deals, which means that once other big teams get into the fray, you have no choice but to revise your original estimation upwards. In another words, there is a good chance that the player might be more valuable than you first thought, and consequently spend more to attain his service. Of course, the opposite could happen, and as it panned out both Juve and Genoa found a figure which they both thought was reasonable. If anything the value on Critisco suggests, the kid is for real, and we have captured a player of real potential. Nonetheless, I havent seen the kid play in action, so I won't jump to conclusion that he is the next Nesta, especially after absolutely demolishing Clichy's lack of experience with Arsenal. That will double standard on massive scale. Lets just hope our scout is just as reliable as Arsenal's.
 

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Dominic

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I think the Secco/Criscito bashers will laugh in a year or 2 when Criscito will be Serie A's best defender and Cannavaro's replacement in the NT. :thumbs:

I hope I'm right. :oops:

Don't forget Paolucci and cie. :tup:
Aren't you one of the Secco bashers though :D?






Oh and good post, Jun-Hide. Comprehensive as always.
 
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Mark

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    yeah but the point is that I didn't bash him on the Criscito deal. Anyway, Criscito was named player of the game today. :D
     

    Wraith

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    yeah but the point is that I didn't bash him on the Criscito deal. Anyway, Criscito was named player of the game today. :D
    Good for him. :agree: I can't see him getting too many minutes next year at Juve, can he? Maybe a couple sub appearances throughout the year...
     
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    Mark

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    Good for him. :agree: I can't see him getting too many minutes next year at Juve, can he? Maybe a couple sub appearances throughout the year...
    I'd play him in every Coppa Italia game and when one of our CB is injured of f*cks up à la Boum-Boum. :p
     

    Jun-hide

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    Dec 16, 2002
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    are you gonna say that when he sells Camo to Inter for Burdisso? :(

    j/k :smoke:
    Burdisso is on a better form than our strikers.:D

    I know the reason behind Dominic support behind Secco - He is a fan of Camo.:p

    On a serious note, he has done pretty well so far in terms of Calcio Mercato is concerned. He pulled a Moggi with Hasan Salihamidzic, and signed Grygera on a free transfer. Not to mentioned, he retained a service of promising star in Cristico. Those three will add real punch to the depth of our defence, which is non-existent at best ATM. I still feel the jury is out there, but if he can snap up Saviola or Metzelder on a free, we have to give him A+ for his endeavour. That will free up massive amount to sign a superstar without sacrificing one of ours.
     

    malducato1

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    Burdisso is on a better form than our strikers.:D

    I know the reason behind Dominic support behind Secco - He is a fan of Camo.:p

    On a serious note, he has done pretty well so far in terms of Calcio Mercato is concerned. He pulled a Moggi with Hasan Salihamidzic, and signed Grygera on a free transfer. Not to mentioned, he retained a service of promising star in Cristico. Those three will add real punch to the depth of our defence, which is non-existent at best ATM. I still feel the jury is out there, but if he can snap up Saviola or Metzelder on a free, we have to give him A+ for his endeavour. That will free up massive amount to sign a superstar without sacrificing one of ours.
    I agree, so far so good.
     

    Ahmedios

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    Nov 11, 2006
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    mark77 said:
    Camo should play in the middle with Marchionni and Neddy on the wings man!
    It will be a disaster in case of 4-4-2, mate. As in 4-4-2 formation, the two center midfielders have to attack and to defend and Camoranesi doesn't defend.

    Do you have another opinion?
     

    Bjerknes

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    It will be a disaster in case of 4-4-2, mate. As in 4-4-2 formation, the two center midfielders have to attack and to defend and Camoranesi doesn't defend.

    Do you have another opinion?
    Camoranesi can defend when he puts his mind to it, albeit in a satisfactory way. If Zanetti can hold down the midfield and Camoranesi falls back to support him, it could potentially work out... worth trying at least.
     

    sateeh

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    Jul 28, 2003
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    DD needs to be very careful when dealing with criscito, as if there will be too much pressure on him to perform then the results could be a disaster for him and the team. He needs to be integrated to the team carefully and without too much pressure until the time is right.

    so i hope we r not pinning our hopes on him to hold up the backline, bringing a defender is essential.
     
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