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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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You know, we’re all going to get our asses kicked by new Covid variants this coming Spring.

For all the talk about China’s Gain-of-Function bioterror research, the entire country of 1.3 billion people is right now a working genetic mutation laboratory: developing new variants with extra spicy Szechwan sauce.

So for all of you having Christmas Eve dinner in Chinese restaurants tonight: Merry Christmas!
 
Apr 12, 2004
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The US Department of Energy has assessed that the Covid-19 pandemic most likely came from a laboratory leak in China. The new assessment further adds to the divide in the US government over whether the pandemic began in China in 2019 as the result of a lab leak or whether it emerged naturally. Various intelligence agencies have been split on the matter. "Right now, there is not a definitive answer that has emerged from the intelligence community on this question," national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN on Sunday, noting that President Joe Biden has put resources into getting to the bottom of the origin question. The US began exploring the possibility that Covid-19 spread in a lab as early as April 2020, though intelligence officials have said a lack of cooperation from Beijing has made it difficult to attain answers.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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"Most likely arose" + "low confidence"? :D

Humans are so horrible at probability and statistics. How this report has been covered in the media has been a comedy train since yesterday.
Either people have the reading comprehension of a 3 year old or they want to fire off an I told you so and pat themselves on the back. My bet is on the latter.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Cherry picking what you want to read/interpret. But humans are notoriously horrible with risk and uncertainty. This is Andy's classic driving vs flying analogy.

Or all the people buying new homes in coastal Florida right now.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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"Most likely arose" + "low confidence"? :D

Humans are so horrible at probability and statistics. How this report has been covered in the media has been a comedy train since yesterday.
"according to people who have read the classified report." :lol:

Govt agencies follow word of estimated probability, so most likely is above 80%. Which leaves us with 2 possibilities either you don't trust gov (welcome to the club) or you do. In both cases the virus comes out of the lab.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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"according to people who have read the classified report." :lol:

Govt agencies follow word of estimated probability, so most likely is above 80%. Which leaves us with 2 possibilities either you don't trust gov (welcome to the club) or you do. In both cases the virus comes out of the lab.
When you're saying both "most likely" and "low confidence", you're essentially saying you have a crapshoot of weak options and that's the best one you think you've got. Everybody seems to be driving off that cliff without peeking at the warning sign on the offramp.

I got nothing to say for or against the Chinese lab leak hypothesis. But saying "we're not sure, therefore it must be xxx" is not a reasonable answer, whether it's God, aliens, or Chinese bioweapons labs.

And yet now, as a result of unfettered cluelessness about uncertainty, we have Sen. Rand "Top Secret Clearance" Paul asking to declassify all the DoE findings so that we expose all the American intel sources on China to the open Internet and every nut job on the planet. Which will clearly solve everything and make it all better. :seven:
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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When you're saying both "most likely" and "low confidence", you're essentially saying you have a crapshoot of weak options and that's the best one you think you've got. Everybody seems to be driving off that cliff without peeking at the warning sign on the offramp.

I got nothing to say for or against the Chinese lab leak hypothesis. But saying "we're not sure, therefore it must be xxx" is not a reasonable answer, whether it's God, aliens, or Chinese bioweapons labs.

And yet now, as a result of unfettered cluelessness about uncertainty, we have Sen. Rand "Top Secret Clearance" Paul asking to declassify all the DoE findings so that we expose all the American intel sources on China to the open Internet and every nut job on the planet. Which will clearly solve everything and make it all better. :seven:
Bro whats the sentence that follows low confidence?

I rather china know than some slimy bureaucrat hide behind the classified tag.
 
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Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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    "Most likely arose" + "low confidence"? :D

    Humans are so horrible at probability and statistics. How this report has been covered in the media has been a comedy train since yesterday.
    How about now?


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    "according to people who have read the classified report." :lol:

    Govt agencies follow word of estimated probability, so most likely is above 80%. Which leaves us with 2 possibilities either you don't trust gov (welcome to the club) or you do. In both cases the virus comes out of the lab.
    It always has been the most likely scenario. China did a great job covering it up though.
     

    Quetzalcoatl

    It ain't hard to tell
    Aug 22, 2007
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    Whatever the truth is, I think they want everyone to be confused about everything, all the time. Reminds me of what Adam Curtis called Hypernormalisation.

    Tomorrow someone from the US state will come out and say it's likely not a lab leak.
     

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