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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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How many booster shots people gonna take before they eventually think it's getting a bit ridiculous and stop getting them?
I was fine taking the initial vaccine, which to be fair to them is still incredibly effective against serious illness in all the current variants, including lambda. However, I won’t be taking boosters. I’ve done my part. Lol
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
You are not falowing the program no more? How come?
? I was always getting the two shots and then done. I’ve never in my life taken a flu shot, and as long as this thing doesn’t morph into some far deadlier disease I won’t be taking boosters for it every year.

I’m perfectly fine taking an mRNA vaccine to help my country get this thing under control, which is what has happened here. And perfectly fine wearing a mask to reduce spread by however much or little it helps, because it does help at least a little. But I expect that in the significant period of time doing these things have bought (before new variants come that entirely bypass current antibodies) a proper plan to have a fully functioning society again and to coexist with the virus now going forward. So far, that’s what is happening in BC and my expectation is that it will continue
 
Jun 8, 2021
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? I was always getting the two shots and then done. I’ve never in my life taken a flu shot, and as long as this thing doesn’t morph into some far deadlier disease I won’t be taking boosters for it every year.

I’m perfectly fine taking an mRNA vaccine to help my country get this thing under control, which is what has happened here. And perfectly fine wearing a mask to reduce spread by however much or little it helps, because it does help at least a little. But I expect that in the significant period of time doing these things have bought (before new variants come that entirely bypass current antibodies) a proper plan to have a fully functioning society again and to coexist with the virus now going forward. So far, that’s what is happening in BC and my expectation is that it will continue
And you'll be disapointed.... sorry
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Yeah, it’s a little bizarre that they have done so little research into protections against variants that antibodies from already recovering give people. You’d think it would be an important detail in the fight against Covid and could have allowed a more pinpointed vaccination strategy. It’s clear from the number of infections happening with delta that recovering from earlier variants doesn’t give everyone protection against catching it again or even getting very sick, but I’d imagine they would help for at least some people.

Oh well, vaccine boosters til our balls turn blue and fall off! :weee:
Exactly, if mutations can keep evading vaccinations it would be good to know whether natural immunity has a better chance of resisting them. You know, some people (call them crazy) may not want to be dependent on booster shots for perpetuity.

Also, perhaps we would achieve herd immunity quicker (maybe we would have already in some places by now) if more people did build their own immunity through natural infection rather than vaccination.

So yeah, it would be good to know. But for some reason no one is really talking about that. Or my understanding is just lacking, which is quite likely as well.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Exactly, if mutations can keep evading vaccinations it would be good to know whether natural immunity has a better chance of resisting them. You know, some people (call them crazy) may not want to be dependent on booster shots for perpetuity.

Also, perhaps we would achieve herd immunity quicker (maybe we would have already in some places by now) if more people did build their own immunity through natural infection rather than vaccination.

So yeah, it would be good to know. But for some reason no one is really talking about that. Or my understanding is just lacking, which is quite likely as well.
Why do you think natural immunity fare better? Does getting flu one year give you immunity for the next one?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,796
Why do you think natural immunity fare better? Does getting flu one year give you immunity for the next one?
I'm not saying it will, but it's worth knowing if the alternative is booster shots for the rest of your life.

And yeah, seeing as I never took a flu shot and don't remember ever having the flu perhaps I've built up immunity over time.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
20,915
I'm not saying it will, but it's worth knowing if the alternative is booster shots for the rest of your life.

And yeah, seeing as I never took a flu shot and don't remember ever having the flu perhaps I've built up immunity over time.
If what’s true for you was for everyone else then flu should’ve been eradicated years ago. Common cold too.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,796
Point is it’s not true for everybody, meaning it won’t simply go away
I agree. It won't go away, even if we vaccinate 95% of the world.

Yes, we are vaccinating to reduce hospitalization. But we were talking about what would happen if mutations begin to evade vaccination and make people seriously ill.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,915
I agree. It won't go away, even if we vaccinate 95% of the world.

Yes, we are vaccinating to reduce hospitalization. But we were talking about what would happen if mutations begin to evade vaccination and make people seriously ill.
Then we should change the formulation? The goal should always be reducing hospitalization and protecting the healthcare system. I agree that vaccines are sold as pandemic slayers and it was stupid.
I know it’s far fetched but things like these give me hope:
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,796
Then we should change the formulation? The goal should always be reducing hospitalization and protecting the healthcare system. I agree that vaccines are sold as pandemic slayers and it was stupid.
I know it’s far fetched but things like these give me hope:
I don't know what the formulation is but if it means every single person needs to be taking shots every 6 months or year for some undetermined period of time, and proving it with a passport in order to be part of society then don't you think that's fuckin sick?
 

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