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lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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Man. Covid really did expose the inner conspiracy theorist in a lot of rather sensible people.
Anyways. This is what we did:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ve-beaten-covid-19-now-here-is-how-it-did-it/
Your government doesn't fuck you in the ass on the daily basis so you are more likely to trust them ---> rational behaviour

Our health minister 'paid' 100mil€ over market price for FFP2 masks by buying them from his husband's company. Later they bought another mansion together while commanding plebs to get their shit together. Not trusting them ---> rational behaviour

So you see it's not rocket science and you can now stop being smug and go lose some weight instead
 
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swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I’ll be taking them for two weeks, usually these things go away after 10 days or so but this ones been with me since August
I remember one of the most nagging cases I had of that. It stuck with me for like 5 weeks. Then I went on an insane hike for 20+ miles over mountain cliffs while camping with friends in Yosemite, and it literally felt like any remaining infection died on that hill. God luck getting rid of it.

Man. Covid really did expose the inner conspiracy theorist in a lot of rather sensible people.
Anyways. This is what we did:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ve-beaten-covid-19-now-here-is-how-it-did-it/
A very similar story here in Portugal, and here we're 84.6% fully vaccinated (99% for people over 65), which is the highest in the world if you exclude the 47 inbreds from the Bounty on Pitcairn Island.

The difference is that we still have some toned down restrictions in place... mostly around masks on public transit and indoors, etc. They're supposed to notch down again Friday. What I like about how it's going here is that people just don't rip masks off and run naked in the streets because the law doesn't require it. People mostly seem to know that COVID is in the air everywhere and we have tools to coexist with it, so let's not lose our sh*t.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
Your government doesn't fuck you in the ass on the daily basis so you are more likely to trust them ---> rational behaviour

Our health minister 'paid' 100mil€ over market price for FFP2 masks by buying them from his husband's company. Later they bought another mansion together while commanding plebs to get their shit together. Not trusting them ---> rational behaviour

So you see it's not rocket science and you can now stop being smug and go lose some weight instead
Cry some more. Covid conspiracies is the new Flat Earth.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Your government doesn't fuck you in the ass on the daily basis so you are more likely to trust them ---> rational behaviour

Our health minister 'paid' 100mil€ over market price for FFP2 masks by buying them from his husband's company. Later they bought another mansion together while commanding plebs to get their shit together. Not trusting them ---> rational behaviour

So you see it's not rocket science and you can now stop being smug and go lose some weight instead
So we should trust the alt right conspiracy retards instead? :lol:
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,893
Your government doesn't fuck you in the ass on the daily basis so you are more likely to trust them ---> rational behaviour

Our health minister 'paid' 100mil€ over market price for FFP2 masks by buying them from his husband's company. Later they bought another mansion together while commanding plebs to get their shit together. Not trusting them ---> rational behaviour
I've heard some similar stories (about not trusting the government). And I understand it, because I often times feel the same way myself.
But it remains confusing to me.

Just because your government made a shady deal for FFP2 masks, does that make FFP2 masks useless? Do you not wear them because of that? Or do you make a distinction? Shady deal (well, fraud is what it sounds likes), but the mask itself is still useful?
Just because you don't trust your government, does that have to mean you don't trust a vaccine? A vaccine that wasn't created by your government, but that is being recommended by specialists all over the world. Specialists who know what they're talking about, as opposed to whatever random person that was elected. Let alone whatever someone random posts online.
Etc.

Not trusting your governement may be rational behaviour. But the things you do or don't do because of that mistrust aren't necessarily rational.


Right wing hatred of science extending to medicine and health care now. It’s weird as fuck. I always used to think a lot of the anti-modern medicine and science folk were hippy dippy quacks on the far left, but Covid is exposing a very large and vocal element of this on the far right.
Over here, we basically have 3 main groups that are "anti".
On the one hand the far right and on the other hand the far left & immigrants. Which is funny. They can't stand each other, but they finally agree on something. :grin:

Actually, there's a 4th group as well: young(er) people. The ones that are into "critical thinking". They get their news from "reliable" sources/influencers on the internet. Their shoe size is usually higher than their IQ.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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To me he is refreshing. I like people and ideas that fall through the cracks.
He works for you. That’s actually pretty cool.

But it is a bit of a trope that people position themselves as original thinkers when 99% of the time they’re not, but they want their audiences to believe it. Refreshing is good for bottled sodas as it is for people spouting ideas, but both could end up giving you cancer.

Worse, sometimes wannabe original thinkers say things just to be semi-controversial with ideas that honestly make no sense to them. Kind of like being French. You tell a French person the sky is blue, they will tell you to toss off and that it’s really pink. Because France.

But it’s that 1% you have to worry about. That’s the domain of Jewish space lasers and cannibal pedophile cabals in the fictional basements of D.C. pizza parlors. Humans get a little too caught up in their specialness and value when they start believing complete horse crap just to think they’re different and special from the rest of the sheep.

Oh, I do read what these lunatics think now and then. But there it’s a matter of trying to understand what’s beneath the surface, what’s motivating them, than any nonsense coming directly out of their lips.
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
He works for you. That’s actually pretty cool.

But it is a bit of a trope that people position themselves as original thinkers when 99% of the time they’re not, but they want their audiences to believe it. Refreshing is good for bottled sodas as it is for people spouting ideas, but both could end up giving you cancer.

Worse, sometimes wannabe original thinkers say things just to be semi-controversial with ideas that honestly make no sense to them. Kind of like being French. You tell a French person the sky is blue, they will tell you to toss off and that it’s really pink. Because France.

But it’s that 1% you have to worry about. That’s the domain of Jewish space lasers and cannibal pedophile cabals in the fictional basements of D.C. pizza parlors. Humans get a little too caught up in their specialness and value when they start believing complete horse crap just to think they’re different and special from the rest of the sheep.

Oh, I do read what these lunatics think now and then. But there it’s a matter of trying to understand what’s beneath the surface, what’s motivating them, than any nonsense coming directly out of their lips.
He definitely is not a lunatic and I follow him one way or another for nearly 10 years. I have put at least a 100 hours of listening and exploring his ideas and overall I like him even though I don't necessarily like his style of pretentious speaking.

It's annoying how fast people want to judge something that they are vaguely familiar with. This makes them sound pretentious. Your opinions are like that. They give me zero value. I remember you said a year ago that you don't believe in vitamin supplementation which only shows that you want to express an opinion on a subject you have no real interest in but also take a solid side. Who cares then? Why express an opinion on something you are not interested in? Why express an opinion on Russell Brand when you barely know what he is all about?
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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He definitely is not a lunatic and I follow him one way or another for nearly 10 years. I have put at least a 100 hours of listening and exploring his ideas and overall I like him even though I don't necessarily like his style of pretentious speaking.

It's annoying how fast people want to judge something that they are vaguely familiar with. This makes them sound pretentious. Your opinions are like that. They give me zero value. I remember you said a year ago that you don't believe in vitamin supplementation which only shows that you want to express an opinion on a subject you have no real interest in but also take a solid side. Who cares then? Why express an opinion on something you are not interested in? Why express an opinion on Russell Brand when you barely know what he is all about?
As I said, if he works for you, that's great.

What I said about vitamin supplements -- and apologies that I don't remember that conversation -- was largely rooted in my experiences where Americans have the most expensive urine in the world. Do I personally really care? Not really. But that doesn't mean I like seeing people profiting and preying on others by selling them false cures.

There are always going to be people who have a desire or need to believe. And without checks, there are predators who will always take advantage of that.

As for Russell, I've honestly tried to like the guy and see what the fuss was about. But in all my efforts (his standups, his movies, his later career talk shows and webcasts), I never got the point of him. I know some do, and I don't disrespect you for that. I think today we frequently confuse feelings for objects of our affections as judgements upon ourselves, because that's the culture we live in now. It's certainly convenient for brands (no pun intended).

But at the same time, I hold some resentment to Russell for being framed as being worth my time when I felt all my time on him was wasted. So I am a touched pissed -- and angry with myself -- that I let him steal attention from me for no good reason.

Did you ask for my opinion? Hell no. But you got it anyway. :p That said, I didn't ask you about Russell Brand's ideas either though. So here we are on an Internet forum.

Peace, brother. :D
 

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