Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (79 Viewers)
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I see the Tuz science officer has checked in. None of what you said is correct, only bar talk. Aren't you staunchly religious? I'm sure the irony of your last comment will be lost on you. You even put science in quotation marks, lol.
You say your family all got it and survived so everything's ok. Mine too, even old and obese family members. That's ok then, let's wrap it up and head out, panic is over. If one of your family members had died you would have viewed it differently. That's just how people react - if it doesn't affect me it doesn't exist. It's why the majority of young people don't care about it. But you'd be sad if you went out to a party and killed dear old nonna, because that's another human reaction. Then it becomes something real. You can go online and read enough sob stories but people can make their own choices. Naturally most people on Tuz are young and not at risk, so it's only an inconvenience to them.
You say your family all got it and survived so everything's ok. Mine too, even old and obese family members. That's ok then, let's wrap it up and head out, panic is over. If one of your family members had died you would have viewed it differently. That's just how people react - if it doesn't affect me it doesn't exist. It's why the majority of young people don't care about it. But you'd be sad if you went out to a party and killed dear old nonna, because that's another human reaction. Then it becomes something real. You can go online and read enough sob stories but people can make their own choices. Naturally most people on Tuz are young and not at risk, so it's only an inconvenience to them.
One of my school friends had a family meeting a couple of months ago. And several of his family members got covid there.
4 of his relatives were sent to the ER and his father passed away... Imagine that.
Don't you have friends or a Facebook? For a while, whenever I went on facebook it was almost like reading an obituary.
4 of his relatives were sent to the ER and his father passed away... Imagine that.
Don't you have friends or a Facebook? For a while, whenever I went on facebook it was almost like reading an obituary.
Ok well good luck with that.
You said the vaccine does not prevent infection, that's not true. You said masks make no difference because it should have disappeared after you flattened the curve, that's not true, because you all went back to opening things up, people still go to parties, don't wear masks, which varies between states. In the UK there's been a direct correlation between lockdowns and social distancing and cases dropping, which is basic common sense because of the transmission. But there is this ongoing battle between the economy and health, so most of us here will choose the economy as we are not likely to die.
Why have you grouped Sweden and Japan and Korea together? Their responses are not in the least bit similar. The EU's response has been very disjointed and slow.
You said the vaccine does not prevent infection, that's not true. You said masks make no difference because it should have disappeared after you flattened the curve, that's not true, because you all went back to opening things up, people still go to parties, don't wear masks, which varies between states. In the UK there's been a direct correlation between lockdowns and social distancing and cases dropping, which is basic common sense because of the transmission. But there is this ongoing battle between the economy and health, so most of us here will choose the economy as we are not likely to die.
Why have you grouped Sweden and Japan and Korea together? Their responses are not in the least bit similar. The EU's response has been very disjointed and slow.
I had a coffee with girls I worked with not so long. Her kid (he's like...4th grade...I think) is in the class with a buddy who's dad died because of corona. He's 39 year old and he literally died in 2-3 days after getting it. He took Pfizer, though. Both shots. Death happened like week after.
And no, I'm not suggesting he died because of the vaccine. But he did die.
And no, I'm not suggesting he died because of the vaccine. But he did die.
From the Mayo Clinic
A COVID-19 vaccine MIGHT:
Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying due to COVID-19
Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others
Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 — making it harder for the disease to spread and contributing to herd immunity
Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines
A COVID-19 vaccine MIGHT:
Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying due to COVID-19
Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others
Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 — making it harder for the disease to spread and contributing to herd immunity
Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines
Nope. He didn't have it. Well, at least according to tests he took he didn't have it previously. Unless he got it on his way to take it.
They went on a short family trip over the weeked. He didn't feel well and went back to hotel. In the morning he went to the hospital and he got worse. He died in 2 days after getting to hospital if I understood her correctly.
The worst thing about vaccine is that not much changes. Apparently it affects you less if you get it, but you can still die, well, obviously, since it's 70-90% effective. Not just that but you have to wear a mask and distance yourself like you didn't take it. So I guess it's there to help you but there are no guarantees.
I personally don't feel like taking it.
They went on a short family trip over the weeked. He didn't feel well and went back to hotel. In the morning he went to the hospital and he got worse. He died in 2 days after getting to hospital if I understood her correctly.
The worst thing about vaccine is that not much changes. Apparently it affects you less if you get it, but you can still die, well, obviously, since it's 70-90% effective. Not just that but you have to wear a mask and distance yourself like you didn't take it. So I guess it's there to help you but there are no guarantees.
I personally don't feel like taking it.
Vaccines don't all work in such a way. Even the flu vaccine cannot stop the spread to another person totally, and it's only 60% effective in a good year. From the CDC's page:
The main role of these vaccinations is to severely reduce symptoms to reduce need for treatment and deaths, not particularly to stop "contraction" or transmission. If you get symptoms like a cold or mild flu then obviously no one cares about that. But because they reduce the viral load in someone infected that helps to prevent the spread.
Population density is very high in NJ, is it not? There is no linear way of dealing with the virus that suits every state or country, they all have to work out what is best for them.
The main role of these vaccinations is to severely reduce symptoms to reduce need for treatment and deaths, not particularly to stop "contraction" or transmission. If you get symptoms like a cold or mild flu then obviously no one cares about that. But because they reduce the viral load in someone infected that helps to prevent the spread.
Population density is very high in NJ, is it not? There is no linear way of dealing with the virus that suits every state or country, they all have to work out what is best for them.
Are you guys not doing that already? Here they call it "sheltering", and those most in danger have hardly left the house in over a year. I know <45yo people immunocompromised (hard chemo) who have still tried to go about their lives, but obviously they have been restricted from anything with crowds, just about going food shopping or walks near people.