Claudio Ranieri (52 Viewers)
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This is another disgusting attitude some members here show.
I hear a lot in the last day about Ranieri not being able to motivate the players, about the core players being super motivated against Inter and Milan and how that's the reason we're doing good against the big teams and more bla bla bla.
If you think about it you'll see that there is one great reason to attack Ranieri, but almost nobody attacks him for that and they attack the guy for wrong reasons.
1. Core players and motivation
- The general opinion here is that players are motivated against Milan and they do good but Ranieri can't motivate them against Lecce and they do bad.
Bullshit.
Yesterday we played a very good match. Look at our team. No Nedved, no Del Piero, No Sissoko, no Trezeguet. The core players argument goes down the drain.
And look who played. Are the "superstars" De Ceglie, Grygera, Legro, Molinaro, Zebina, Mellberg and Knezevic such big stars that they can underrate Lecce? Do the "mega stars" Marchionni, Zanetti, Poulsen, Marchisio, Giovinco need to be motivated to play against Lazio. Can they underrate Lazio? Do Iaquinta and Amauri, who only 1-2 years ago played for a mid-table team, now need super motivation to play against mid-table teams?
Nope. Motivation isn't the reason we play good against the big teams and bad against the weak teams.
Here is the problem. Against the stronger teams like Inter, Milan, Real, Chelsea, Roma we play much more careful. We play defensive and we're the passive team. That suits us. The defense is better protected because we don't push forward and we have the tools to play counter-attacks. The others find it hard to break us.
Ranieri did very good here. He gets a huge credit for this. It's not the players motivation that brings us good results here. Milan, Real and Inter are also super motivated against us and they have better players than we do. We do good against them because we outplay them tactically.
But against the weak teams, when we should be the active team, we should break the defenses, organize the game, set the tempo.....we suffer. Our defense isn't protected since we play more attacking football and we're killed on counters.
I blame Ranieri because in two years he couldn't do anything about this. He couldn't find a way to break these small teams without being punished on counters. He didn't buy the right players, especially in defense, in order to make beating the smaller teams easier and he did nothing to improve our possession play in midfield.
This is ladies and gentlemen where you should hit Ranieri. This is one huge weakness. No team will win anything with such mentality, where you do great only when you play careful and defensive. That's something that could work in Atalanta or Parma, but in Juve people are used to something else.
I hear a lot in the last day about Ranieri not being able to motivate the players, about the core players being super motivated against Inter and Milan and how that's the reason we're doing good against the big teams and more bla bla bla.
If you think about it you'll see that there is one great reason to attack Ranieri, but almost nobody attacks him for that and they attack the guy for wrong reasons.
1. Core players and motivation
- The general opinion here is that players are motivated against Milan and they do good but Ranieri can't motivate them against Lecce and they do bad.
Bullshit.
Yesterday we played a very good match. Look at our team. No Nedved, no Del Piero, No Sissoko, no Trezeguet. The core players argument goes down the drain.
And look who played. Are the "superstars" De Ceglie, Grygera, Legro, Molinaro, Zebina, Mellberg and Knezevic such big stars that they can underrate Lecce? Do the "mega stars" Marchionni, Zanetti, Poulsen, Marchisio, Giovinco need to be motivated to play against Lazio. Can they underrate Lazio? Do Iaquinta and Amauri, who only 1-2 years ago played for a mid-table team, now need super motivation to play against mid-table teams?
Nope. Motivation isn't the reason we play good against the big teams and bad against the weak teams.
Here is the problem. Against the stronger teams like Inter, Milan, Real, Chelsea, Roma we play much more careful. We play defensive and we're the passive team. That suits us. The defense is better protected because we don't push forward and we have the tools to play counter-attacks. The others find it hard to break us.
Ranieri did very good here. He gets a huge credit for this. It's not the players motivation that brings us good results here. Milan, Real and Inter are also super motivated against us and they have better players than we do. We do good against them because we outplay them tactically.
But against the weak teams, when we should be the active team, we should break the defenses, organize the game, set the tempo.....we suffer. Our defense isn't protected since we play more attacking football and we're killed on counters.
I blame Ranieri because in two years he couldn't do anything about this. He couldn't find a way to break these small teams without being punished on counters. He didn't buy the right players, especially in defense, in order to make beating the smaller teams easier and he did nothing to improve our possession play in midfield.
This is ladies and gentlemen where you should hit Ranieri. This is one huge weakness. No team will win anything with such mentality, where you do great only when you play careful and defensive. That's something that could work in Atalanta or Parma, but in Juve people are used to something else.
They are mixt actually, motivation also plays a huge factor!
But it is not smth it could be measured and doesnt have the same effect on each and every player simultaneously. There is smth more than that and it is what Allen said.
However, we should not forget that determination and concentrations can also make the difference at times!
But it is not smth it could be measured and doesnt have the same effect on each and every player simultaneously. There is smth more than that and it is what Allen said.
However, we should not forget that determination and concentrations can also make the difference at times!
True.
I have said this before and I always criticized Ranieri for that very reason.
The problem is this, when we play against weaker teams, we feel compelled to attack thus we play with a high defensive line. The flaw in this startegy is we don't have the players to dominate the midfield and dictate the game. Barcelona are a team that does this very well, we are not. We lose possession very easilly and concede goals because our CB's have far from perfected the offside trap. Recall how we conceded the only goal last night, it was when we were playing with a high line.
Someone once disagreed with me and said playing deep against smaller teams would be ridiculous. This is clearly false, we must play to our strengths and realize our weaknesses, we are a liability when it comes to holding up the ball and maintaining possession, we are even worse at executing the offside trap. However, as we have seen last night, we are actually phenomenally good at sitting deep and closing down spaces, we are also dangerous when players like Camo are on form. I don't see why we can't defend that way against smaller teams.
That's the reason we were able to beat Real Madrid twice and always produce more than decent performances against big teams.
I have said this before and I always criticized Ranieri for that very reason.
The problem is this, when we play against weaker teams, we feel compelled to attack thus we play with a high defensive line. The flaw in this startegy is we don't have the players to dominate the midfield and dictate the game. Barcelona are a team that does this very well, we are not. We lose possession very easilly and concede goals because our CB's have far from perfected the offside trap. Recall how we conceded the only goal last night, it was when we were playing with a high line.
Someone once disagreed with me and said playing deep against smaller teams would be ridiculous. This is clearly false, we must play to our strengths and realize our weaknesses, we are a liability when it comes to holding up the ball and maintaining possession, we are even worse at executing the offside trap. However, as we have seen last night, we are actually phenomenally good at sitting deep and closing down spaces, we are also dangerous when players like Camo are on form. I don't see why we can't defend that way against smaller teams.
That's the reason we were able to beat Real Madrid twice and always produce more than decent performances against big teams.
because if we played against the lesser teams with the attitude and tactic we play against the big teams, the true fans like Andy, Vinman and Co will bash Ranieri for playing to cowardly and claim that we should beat those teams by 3 goals difference (which you wont do, if you play cautiosly).
there are two many barca fans that got the colour wrong and i think this is ONE reason, why ranieri does not play that way against the smaller teams.
not everybody has learned that the present juve has to EARN the points like any other team on the planet too. To earn something is never a piece of a cake, but always work, but hey ... explain a bum what "work" means.
there are two many barca fans that got the colour wrong and i think this is ONE reason, why ranieri does not play that way against the smaller teams.
not everybody has learned that the present juve has to EARN the points like any other team on the planet too. To earn something is never a piece of a cake, but always work, but hey ... explain a bum what "work" means.
