[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (7 Viewers)

[northbank]

the arsenal fans who came on here last week really impressed me with the way they discussed the game including yourself RVP but this bullshit is pointless and childish just talk about the game.

I hope I impressed you too!

Just kidding, of course everyone is nervous for this game. It only takes two minutes to wipe out a two goal lead.

Just want the team to do me proud, I don't care if they go out although it would be nice to have one more european night at Highbury.

 

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[Ekram]

fabregas and eboue will play and i belive freddie also will play

 

[robinvanpersie]

mate. if you'd take a peep at the title at the top of this page, and of the site in general, you'd probably notice the two key words "juventus" and "fans". and USUALLY, just speaking out of personal opinion here. fans, are USUALLY, the supporters of the team the support. hm?

Yes, I wasn't criticizing your idolisation of DP (or rather, godisation). While I do find it very funny how you guys think he alone can bring you back into this tie, it's irrelevant. All I'm saying is that just because this is a Juve forum, it doesn't mean an Arsenal fan can't come on here and debate a bit and *gasp* DISAGREE (OMGOMGOMG) with some of you guy's opinions. These discussions started out fairly well and slowly deteriorated due to bad posting (from both sides). I know that on one of our forums such as Arsenal Mania, a Juve fan wouldn't be banned quite simply because he was disagreeing with the Arsenal supporters and that if an Arsenal fan was insulting a Juve fan past an acceptable point, measures would be taken against the said Arsenal fan.

 

[Stephan]

Arsenal duo to make Turin trip

Monday, 3 April 2006

Arsenal FC have confirmed that midfielder Cesc Fabregas and full-back Emmanuel Eboué "will be travelling" to Turin for Wednesday's UEFA Champions League quarter-final second leg, but did not say whether the duo would be fit to face Juventus.

'Recovered sufficiently'
Both players were injured during Saturday's 5-0 English Premiership defeat of Aston Villa FC, with Eboué picking up a groin injury and Fabregas taking a blow to his foot. Having initially been rated by manager Arsène Wenger at 60-40 to play in Italy, the influential pair "have recovered sufficiently to take their place in the travelling party". Arsenal won the first leg 2-0 at Highbury.


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silly april fool it was on saturday

 

[bradd_21]

Eire - there arent that many arsenal fans here on the wind up to be honest. Most are just reacting to clueless posts such as 'i have seen toure a lot this season' 'but he is not a first team regular' and 'he only has like 4 or 5 good games' - then when confronted by arsenal fans, tells them to 'soap it' before posting pictures and talking about who's 'ugly' and who's not.

tbh there's only one moron here, and he aint a gooner.

 

[northbank]

i would not say a torid time at highbury they have been superb on the road a bit dodgy at times, but not the same pressure on their minds if the lose its only 3 points this time its a Cl semi final at stake an early goal for juve could cause a lot of problems.

if juve are 1-0 at half time i will be delighted and imo its not a totally out of this world
scenario it could easily happen

I'm not so sure. I think players like Senderos and Reyes have really struggled with confidence this year; even Henry to an extent. We sold our captain and were losing to poor teams and heads were dropping. I'd say that experience has toughened them up and made the team pull together.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Troll...

 

[jgunner84]

Absolutely. They have a strange tendancy to overrate everything they do, and its also funny and quite sad at the same time to see they defend Capello simply to enhance their acheivements. Everything from stating Wenger is the best manager in the world to Kolo Toure perhaps being the best stopper in the world (hahahaha) is just utter tripe and really makes them look like a biased group of supporters.

Ok Here's a objective Arsenal fan talking.

Some people here have said certain things just to counter some immature Arse fans.

These are the arguments:

ARSE FAN SAYS: Toure is the best defender in the world.

JUVE FAN SAYS: He is known only after Juve game.

My opinion is that you should consider the circumstances in which he has been playing. We have played 23 different defensive combinations(Taken from the Observer). Even then we have the 3rd best defense in the league.

Add to that the shit form of Campbell(he let in even 2 in one game against west ham) and Senderos(one mistake every game). Also Gilberto for most part of the season kept giving the ball away(which is bad for defensive mid).

He is not the best in the world right now but he has the potential to become the best.


ARSE FAN SAYS: Wenger is the best manager in the world.

JUVE FAN SAYS: He is alright.Mourinho is better.

Here I tend to agree more with Juve fan but Mourinho is not better. I believe Wenger is not perfect and he is not exactly the manager for winning trophies.
He has done OK with the available resources but I think if he adopts more defensive tactics we can win the league more often.

ARSE FAN SAYS: We are the greatest.

JUVE FAN SAYS: You are shit.

Not a clever answer but I think we can be the greatest provided we don't rest on our laurels. For example if we lose to Juve on wednesday then all this hype would come to nought. So it is better to build on our success(which we haven't done till now).


I also have to say I do believe Capello is a good manager for the amount of trophies he has won and that is something I DO admire. I think last week was just one of his off-days and I think Wenger has to be very careful of taking Capello lightly.

I think you have to moderate your views and look at things objectively because there are a few sensible Arsenal fans around here.

 

[robinvanpersie]

You have always known me ehh??? (You could be my childhood friend whom I lost long time ago....)

for the 10th time......Re-read my post about Kolo Toure before using your broken ruler.

Again, don't forget on what Forum you are.

I'm sorry but here's another reply caused by a lack of comprehension skills. Nowhere did he say that he's always known you.

You've made a few misinformed posts about Kolo Toure who were, quite simply, wrong.

Again, just because you're a Juve fan and a member of a Juve board, doesn't mean an Arsenal fan isn't allowed to point out your flaws\mistakes as long as it's done in a reasonable manner (which I believe was done, at least by me, until you started insulting me and being an ass thinking any post aimed at you can be dismissed with a simple, "I didn't read it, you're not good enough for me to read your post.", "Move on." "Jog on." et cetera.

 

[Eddy]

cant we all just....get along ?

 

[Eire]

I'm not so sure. I think players like Senderos and Reyes have really struggled with confidence this year; even Henry to an extent. We sold our captain and were losing to poor teams and heads were dropping. I'd say that experience has toughened them up and made the team pull together.

a valid point but confidence is ficle and tempoary and in such young players it does not take much to sow the seeds of doubt.

although there is of course a number of experienced players in the side as well, im just looking for the positives from a juve point of view.


i really hope juve get stuck in and definatley attempt to unsettle lehman he is a lose cannon

 

[Azzurri7]

1. You started with the insulting and I asked you to stop quite a few pages back but you didn't really listen. Also, if you re-read that sentence you'll see that nowhere in it did I actually literally call you an idiotic jackass.

I don't recall myself starting with an Insult. Plus who ARE you to tell me to stop??

2. Contrary to what you may believe, I have reasonable comprehension skills (I'd even go as far as to say that they're above average and maybe even great) which are probably (definitely) better than yours as I'm actually a native English speaker. Taking this into consideration, I'm sure you'll be able to understand that I did read your post and if you re-read my post you may see wherein your error lies. You don't need to read the post to realize that you're wrong, you can also:
1. Realize it on your own.
2. See that the guy isn't an Arsenal fan and that if a Juve fan is siding with the Arsenal fans, your argument might not have been too reasonable and maybe even *gasp* stupid.

I Salut you for speaking a better English than me. Though It's not my native language and I don't blame myself for knowing 4languages. Anyhow though It's not related to the topic I don't know what you're trying to show.

You're trying way too hard to sound like a smart poster, you're not even keeping it on the topic. Instead, you're trying to teach me how can i figure out my errors??? get a life.

3. Since I myself am Mr. Sarcastic, I'm quite sure that I can recognize sarcasm when I see it. You said something of this sort: I've been watching Toure since 2002 and I doubt you watched him more than me. There was no emoticon around there nor was there anything implying that it was sarcasm. In addition, previous comments made by you, made me think that you obviously overrate yourself and therefore really might think that you know Toure better than Arsenal fan (a stupid statement in itself even if sarcastic). Say it was sarcastic and you're not just covering up for your stupid post earlier on, what was the point of it, just to piss people off? Also, that comment coupled by, "Toure's only been good for 3-4 games." and "Toure made a mistake vs. Chelsea" didn't really add to my already formed opinion that you aren't really as good as you may think. You made some comments that were obviously wrong as anyone who's actually watched Toure this season can say (even a Spurs fan).

I don't always use emoticon to express my feelings, nor I'm obliged to use them specially when I'm talking to the likes of you.

And I repeat, I don't need your report card to judge me whether I'm good or not.....If you can't handle or support my posts, then you have two options.

A) You either get the Fvck out of here and remain in your Arsenal Forum.
B) You Ignore me and the likes of me and just try to read without moaning. It doesn't suit you.

And to go back to my point, All what I wanted to say is that Kolo Toure is no-where to Canna's Level after your folks were insisting on that.

4. Adding phrases and words at the end of your posts such as "Next." "Move on." and "Jog on." detracts from whatever topic was actually being discussed, degrades the level of your post (which was not all that high to begin with) and again, forms the basis to the opinion that you're a jackass.

Note: I still haven't said that you're a jackass, although I may believe it.

I love adding phrases. Big fan of "Phrases Party".

Again....You're trying waaaaaaay too hard to look smart. Yet, you're not gonna be appluad.



Soap It.

 

[Eire]

while the same is of course through for Del piero if fabregas and eboue are not really 100% it could be worse for arsenal than not having the players available in the first place

 

[Holdon]

PARALELL'S WITH LIVERPOOL LAST SEASON.

- BEHIND OUR LOCAL RIVALS
- SIGNED A CUP TIED PLAYER FROM MONACO.
- PLAY IN RED.
- THEIR STAR PLAYER OWEN WENT TO REAL TO WIN CL, VIERA WENT TO YOU FOR SAME PURPOSE - we will see soon wether he made the right choise.
- WE were doing well in the FA Cup in 2005, and they are too.
- They were to play a team in blue for the semi finals, this could happen.

Yeah, we just need the Pope to die and it'll all fit.

 

[robinvanpersie]

Absolutely. They have a strange tendancy to overrate everything they do, and its also funny and quite sad at the same time to see they defend Capello simply to enhance their acheivements. Everything from stating Wenger is the best manager in the world to Kolo Toure perhaps being the best stopper in the world (hahahaha) is just utter tripe and really makes them look like a biased group of supporters.

I personally see myself as fairly objective and unbiased (as far as a fan can be) but why do you expect every single Arsenal fan to be the same as I? Fans, by definition are biased, fickle, subjective, you name it. Most of your fans aren't any more objective when speaking about your team than Mourinho is when criticizing the referees in his games. Even if some of the comments we make can be considered as some to be stupid, you must take into consideration the fact that every one of us is biased one way or another, that Arsenal fans know a great deal more about their team than a Juve fan does and that hey, it's just their opinion, it's not as if it's written in stone and you can debate it, as long as you do so in a respectful manner. No need to go all Azzurri on us.

 

[bradd_21]

I don't recall myself starting with an Insult. Plus who ARE you to tell me to stop??

Honestly dude, how old are you and how do you get through life with such an ignorant and foolish attitude ?

Just out of curiosity ....

 

[ThaiGunner]

Eire - there arent that many arsenal fans here on the wind up to be honest. Most are just reacting to clueless posts such as 'i have seen toure a lot this season' 'but he is not a first team regular' and 'he only has like 4 or 5 good games' - then when confronted by arsenal fans, tells them to 'soap it' before posting pictures and talking about who's 'ugly' and who's not.

tbh there's only one moron here, and he aint a gooner.

:toast:

 

[Stephan]

Yeah, we just need the Pope to die and it'll all fit.

 

[Azzurri7]

Honestly dude, how old are you

Born 1897.

 

[PhRoZeN]

First off, I'm not bradd's "freidn," I don't know him and he isn't even an Arsenal fan FFS.

dont think he would be happy to have another fellow arsenal fan slating him.

Secondly, It feels like I'm speaking to a wall. WHERE DID I SAY NESTA ISN'T CONSISTENT? I just said, Toure has been consistently better than Nesta THIS YEAR and that Nesta had a horrible period in January

Jeez one match in which he was horrible? that makes toure better. So your telling me toure has been superb in every match he has played all season right? well the match against blackburn comes in mind. And if you want to look at his performance from january onwards yeah his been good especially as fair bit of that time was spent in the ACN. Before january not going too far back the match against newcastle and the match against wigan where although arsenal won 3-2. Both goals conceded by arsenal had kolo written all over it.

Oh, you're unbiased because you can admit that Henry is world class? Is that what you say to prove you aren't biased? Saying that doesn't prove anything since any person with a pair of eyes can tell that Thierry Henry is the best striker in the world (yes, I know some of you guys will say no he isn't and if he isn't he's definitely in the top 3, but he is the best striker in the world).

I guess u want some more praising aww. well I admire your coach and also van persie who is a great player with potential. does that help? or do you want more? :sick:

relevance? Please explain to me wtf your group stage games have to do with Wednesday's game?{/QUOTE]

If you actually read the context properly you would see that we aint all poor in ever CL match but yes we were awful against you. There are certain matches where we have played good and thats why i pointed out at the group stages. Jeez. :faq1:

You played shit vs. Bayern in one game (without Vieira, with Giannicheda) and you played well vs. Bayern in one game (with Vieira, without Giannicheda). The other games were against shit teams so are even less relevant.

The point being we can play good be it against whoever. Club brugge were a decent side and no doubt you had the arguably most easiest of group. As for the bayern game, we wernt have as bad as the way we played against you, which shows we aint consistently shit!.

Let's say for a sec the Bayern games are relevant. Going by them, you were supposed to win with Vieira and lose without him but you lost without him and going by the Bayern game, you'll lose when playing with Giannicheda.

we have won many matches without viera this season, so you point above doesnt make no sense and certainly cannot be applied to the context. Also last season we won many CL games without viera, simply because we never had him, so stop coming out with garbage.

Zambrotta was your best player vs. us and yet Eboue still managed to keep him quiet bar one or two crosses. When a player plays amazingly well three games in a row you can say he might be a flop or he might be a developing talent or he might be overrated.

Yes he was our best player, but even he didnt play at his best. Notice that when one player plays good and the other doesnt its obvious he cant always come up and cross especially as he didnt even get any help from mutu. Also zambrotta was a left back to come up and cause some problems for eboue says enough. One things for sure we never saw eboue coming that often up against us simply because there was a fear amongst arsenal that if he did leave his position they would concede.