[CL] JUVENTUS 1-3 Barcelona (June 6th, 2015) (49 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

Yeah. We should totally ban people for voicing an opinion on incidents in the game and whether the ref was a factor in how the game turned out... Makes sense. Because you know this is against forum rules. A large portion of the forum having a different opinion really means we should censor them all and ban them for voicing it.

I'm done with this forum. Quite pathetic really.

kkthxbye

 

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[CrimsonianKing]

Our favorite hipster left?

You fuckers don't know when to stop, huh?

 

[Klovn]

Is this a foul on Pogba right before their goal?

Looks like he is slipping alittle.

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[Vialli_92]

What? Not even in the same realm. Neymar's header was actually going wide if it doesn't deflect off his hand. He headed it to the right, and his right hand stopped it from following that trajectory and caused it to barely slip inside the post. It was clearly going well wide without his hand. That's not a 50/50. That a 100% handball. Unintentional, so no yellow card, but you can't score with your hand.

As I have said many times. It's not just about the 50/50 penalty. I'd say more or less 75/25, but regardless, even at 50/50, that completely ignores that Pogba was fouled 3 times and not one foul was given. I can see not wanting to change the match by awarding a somewhat debatable penalty... I get that. I even support it to some extent. But to allow the foul that gave Barca possession and started their counter, the type of foul he'd been awarding to Barca players all night is absurd. And then to allow that foul against Pogba on the edge of the area in the first half that would have been prime free kick territory for Pirlo, the type of spot he's almost 50/50 to score from, is also absurd. That was a clear and obvious trip on Pogba, and that was the type of free kick Allegri was hoping for in starting Pirlo.

It's the fact that he awarded free kicks for every tiny bit of contact against Barca players, but somehow Pogba couldn't buy a free kick that bothers me.





And this is where I agree with you 100%. As a fan, it's pretty much irrelevant if I make a big deal out of this. Who cares. I'll be choked about it for a day or two. Just as I was choked about the offside goal by Madrid in 97 for a day or two. And I'll complain a bit about it.

However, I'm glad our team has hardly mentioned it, and has given credit to Barcelona for being the better team on the day. They know, as do we all, that they had their chances and it wasn't the referee that caused Tevez, Vidal, Pogba all to shoot directly at the keeper from the edge of the box multiple times; that it wasn't the referee that caused Pogba to send his free header over a wide open net; that it wasn't the referee that caused Buffon to punch that rebound straight out for a tap-in, and Evra to fail to beat Suarez to the ball to clear the rebound; they know it wasn't the referee that caused Vidal to play far too recklessly for the first 20 minutes of the match. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Barcelona was the superior team. They won. I just would have preferred to see how the game would have ended up without 2-3 poor mistakes from the referee at a crucial point in the match. Even if we still lost. That's the gist of it.

Agree 100%. The ref did favour Barca on the 50/50 calls and some times getting more of them than your opponent is enough to make a difference.

For me it was a penalty and the assistant behind the goal has to let the ref know. There is shirt pulling in the box fine but it continued for far too long on Pogba and eventually he ends up on top of Pogba on the ground.

 

[Gerd]

Buffon , Morata , Marchisio , Barzagli interviews

http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic...sio-e-barzagli-dopo-la-finale-col-barcellona/

Hurst a lot for barzagli too . Truly a shame , he deserves this just as much as buffon imho . One of the best defenders in the world and he has almost 0 recognition and unfortunately his career is near it's finish so chances of him getting it are extremely small


Great from Morata to leave when asked if he will stay or not .

 

[piotrr]

Got home from Berlin sunday evening, i'm yet to read the posts here, needed a little break. It was an amazing weekend, feel very proud of our team and fans, sure it hurts but just getting to the final was extraordinary.
I thought the ref was ok, some small calls were made in Barca's favour but i don't think he made any big mistakes. Barca's creativity is out of this world, we were lucky to be only 1 down at HT. Our goal was simply amazing, Marchisio's backheel ahhh. So much joy when Morata scored.
IMO we should've subbed Pirlo for Pereyra, i know it's a hard decision but i really believe that we could have made it with Marchisio in the middle. Also the ref should end the game before Barca's last counter, third goal was completely unnecessary.
All Barca fans that i've met after the final were humble, giving thumbs up for the good game etc. 3 days of walking in Juve shirts and no negative experience. Seeing Juve logos all around the city was great, you could really feel that we're back.

This season was magical, team, coach and management deserve an applause. I really like where we're going and i'm sure we'll witness many Juve CL finals in the future.

Fino Alla Fine.
Forza!

 

[Seven]

Buffon , Morata , Marchisio , Barzagli interviews

http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic...sio-e-barzagli-dopo-la-finale-col-barcellona/

Hurst a lot for barzagli too . Truly a shame , he deserves this just as much as buffon imho . One of the best defenders in the world and he has almost 0 recognition and unfortunately his career is near it's finish so chances of him getting it are extremely small


Great from Morata to leave when asked if he will stay or not .

Dude won 4 scudetti with Juventus and even won the Bundesliga with Wolfsburg. To top it all off he also won the World Cup. I'm sure he'll manage.

 

[DUKAC]

Dude won 4 scudetti with Juventus and even won the Bundesliga with Wolfsburg. To top it all off he also won the World Cup. I'm sure he'll manage.

And Coppa this year and I think 2 Supercoppa.

 

[Ronn]

Got home from Berlin sunday evening, i'm yet to read the posts here, needed a little break. It was an amazing weekend, feel very proud of our team and fans, sure it hurts but just getting to the final was extraordinary.
I thought the ref was ok, some small calls were made in Barca's favour but i don't think he made any big mistakes. Barca's creativity is out of this world, we were lucky to be only 1 down at HT. Our goal was simply amazing, Marchisio's backheel ahhh. So much joy when Morata scored.
IMO we should've subbed Pirlo for Pereyra, i know it's a hard decision but i really believe that we could have made it with Marchisio in the middle. Also the ref should end the game before Barca's last counter, third goal was completely unnecessary.
All Barca fans that i've met after the final were humble, giving thumbs up for the good game etc. 3 days of walking in Juve shirts and no negative experience. Seeing Juve logos all around the city was great, you could really feel that we're back.

This season was magical, team, coach and management deserves an applause. I really like where we're going and i'm sure we'll witness many Juve CL finals in the future.

Fino Alla Fine.
Forza!

 

[Ocelot]

Dude won 4 scudetti with Juventus and even won the Bundesliga with Wolfsburg. To top it all off he also won the World Cup. I'm sure he'll manage.

Plus from how he seems in interviews and in general, he doesn't look like a guy who'd get bothered by such things too much.

 

[PedroFlu]

At the 67th minute, in our best moment in the game, Pogba was clearly fouled by Alves in the box. That was no 50-50 call, it was a sheer penalty. Less than minute later Barcelona scores.

That was a call that decided the match, basically.

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The first goal we suffered was on Barzagli - Vidal. Mainly on Barzagli. It was defined by individual mistakes.

In the second goal, the team was simply caught out of position. We had 4 or 5 guys marking too uphigh. Buffon couldn't have done more, that was a tough ball to defend, every GK of the world would do the same. I don't think any spceific player was more at fault on the 2nd goal.

Our chances woul've been bigger if Allegri took the right choices.

In the end, the best team won. But that non call determined the championship.

 

[Vialli_92]

At the 67th minute, in our best moment in the game, Pogba was clearly fouled by Alves in the box. That was no 50-50 call, it was a sheer penalty. Less than minute later Barcelona scores.

That was a call that decided the match, basically.

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The first goal we suffered was on Barzagli - Vidal. Mainly on Barzagli. It was defined by individual mistakes.

In the second goal, the team was simply caught out of position. We had 4 or 5 guys marking too uphigh. Buffon couldn't have done more, that was a tough ball to defend, every GK of the world would do the same. I don't think any spceific player was more at fault on the 2nd goal.

Our chances woul've been bigger if Allegri took the right choices.

In the end, the best team won. But that non call determined the championship.

Regardless of the penalty decision it was still in our hands at the time to win the game. We put too many people forward and played right into their hands of a counter attack. It was still possible to win that game even without a penalty decision so it wasn't the only reason we lost.

 

[Red]

Only saw the first hour of this live, but seen highlights since.

Decent effort by Juve and with a few breaks here and there they might have won the game. It was certainly an impressive display of resilience to recover from conceding the early goal. That would've sunk many teams and resulted in a very one-sided game.

Don't know if it was simply because of the opening goal changing Juve's plans, but Juve played a more open, aggressive game than I would have anticipated. Not unusual for a coach to decide to do that in a final, where they may well be more negative in another game. My only real issue would be that there were a few too many times when Juve were caught neither pressing nor dropping off, and that allowed Barca chances to work the ball forward a bit too easily.

Because the game was allowed to be more open and less tactical, it was more about individual performances making the difference and that was always likely to suit Barca more than Juve. Tevez and Pirlo in particular did not contribute enough for Juve to win a game based on moments of individual skill.

Juve's midfield generally didn't quite manage to assert itself to the extent it was likely to need to in order to win the game. Fairly poor show on the first goal for both Vidal and Pogba to get caught wrong side of Barca's midfielder runners.

 

[Juventus 32]

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[Hust]

The arguments between robbed vs not robbed were quite entertaining.

 

[baggio]

The arguments between robbed vs not robbed were quite entertaining.

Im so glad the team and club didn't take that line. Just from the body language of the players, you could tell that they know they were beaten by a better opponent. And theres no shame in recognising and accepting that. In fact, like i said earlier, its the kind of loss thats likely to have a more positive impact, than anything else on the players.

Being cheated and robbed, is the anthem of second grade clubs who don't have enough to never let those situations arise, or develop into reasons for a title loss.

 

[Hust]

Im so glad the team and club didn't take that line. Just from the body language of the players, you could tell that they know they were beaten by a better opponent. And theres no shame in recognising and accepting that. In fact, like i said earlier, its the kind of loss thats likely to have a more positive impact, than anything else on the players.

Being cheated and robbed, is the anthem of second grade clubs who don't have enough to never let those situations arise, or develop into reasons for a title loss.

 

[Seven]

Im so glad the team and club didn't take that line. Just from the body language of the players, you could tell that they know they were beaten by a better opponent. And theres no shame in recognising and accepting that. In fact, like i said earlier, its the kind of loss thats likely to have a more positive impact, than anything else on the players.

Being cheated and robbed, is the anthem of second grade clubs who don't have enough to never let those situations arise, or develop into reasons for a title loss.

Teams have been robbed of course. It does happen. It's easy to say they shouldn't let those situations arise, but sometimes teams really are hard done by.

We, however, were not. We were slightly unlucky with Pogba, but it would have been a soft penalty anyway.

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Only saw the first hour of this live, but seen highlights since.

Decent effort by Juve and with a few breaks here and there they might have won the game. It was certainly an impressive display of resilience to recover from conceding the early goal. That would've sunk many teams and resulted in a very one-sided game.

Don't know if it was simply because of the opening goal changing Juve's plans, but Juve played a more open, aggressive game than I would have anticipated. Not unusual for a coach to decide to do that in a final, where they may well be more negative in another game. My only real issue would be that there were a few too many times when Juve were caught neither pressing nor dropping off, and that allowed Barca chances to work the ball forward a bit too easily.

Because the game was allowed to be more open and less tactical, it was more about individual performances making the difference and that was always likely to suit Barca more than Juve. Tevez and Pirlo in particular did not contribute enough for Juve to win a game based on moments of individual skill.

Juve's midfield generally didn't quite manage to assert itself to the extent it was likely to need to in order to win the game. Fairly poor show on the first goal for both Vidal and Pogba to get caught wrong side of Barca's midfielder runners.

We played a CL final and after an hour you decided you had had enough?

 

[Dostoevsky]

We played a CL final and after an hour you decided you had had enough?

Wouldn't be surprised if it's because of the golf or some other silly reason.

 

[kao_ray]

Top 2.

I think we are near Barca, Bayern and Chelsea.

PSG, Real Madrid, Man UTD, Man City have more money and have a huge potential to win the CL if they get better coaches for example.

We are somewhere near these two groups of teams, but we are closer to the first three right now. This is due to our very economic management in recent years. Due to our coach, who is able to get a win in many of the big games. And, very importantly, due to momentum. Actually if our players (like Pirlo, Tevez, Pogba) were in top form and Barca's were shaky - we would have won. But in the recent months the form of the main Barca players was fantastic and the form of some of our key players deteriorated.

So, yeah. We have a good management, a good coach, a solid team, but to be among the best in the late phases of the CL we need momentum from our key players. Pirlo, Tevez and Pogba weren't anywhere near their potential in the final. On this basis it's hard to estimate on which place we are.

Money wise we are far behind from all the teams above. Perhaps they have more stars than us. But we are a very good hardworking team with a few flair and fancy players. We are the poorest rich bastards and I like it