Neymar fucking pathetic little shit i hope he loses his arm in an accident then try and mug the world that it hit your shoulder still.
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Just because you score from the ball hitting your hand doesn't make it handball. That's not how the rule works. It doesn't matter what the result is all that matters is whether it's deliberate.
His hand is in a natural position when the ball strikes it.
His hand is in a natural position when the ball strikes it.
If all that matters is that it is deliberate than 90% of handball penalties shouldn't be called as it's incredibly rare that a player deliberately moves his hand/arm to block the ball on purpose. 90% of handballs are players having an arm extended and getting unlucky that the ball hits it. Nay, not just penalties, handballs called anywhere on the pitch.
That's how the games called. It may say "deliberate" in the FIFA rules but it clearly isn't the case with how refs actually call handballs. Neymar's handball is whistled 100% of the time.
This isn't even a debate. Your reading the rule literally and ignoring how referees actually call the rule, which is handball regardless of intention of the arm is extended from the body.
People are still debating this? Definitely a handball. Intent doesn't only mean that the player intended to do it at the moment, it also means that they left their arm or hand extended out knowing that the ball might hit it. Very few defenders who concede a handball penalty actively intends to do it. But they are penalized anyway because they didn't take precautions and had placed their hands or arms at a position where the ball might hit them.
It's exactly the same with Neymar. How is this not apparent to everyone who has watched more than a few matches of football I don't understand.
It's exactly the same with Neymar. How is this not apparent to everyone who has watched more than a few matches of football I don't understand.
It was the same with the Thierry Henry handball against Ireland. That wasn't a "deliberate" handball. He didn't make an attempt to move his hand to the ball. The ball ricocheted and hit his extended hand.
It didn't stop an international uproar, and Ireland considering suing FIFA for a replay of the match. And certainly was considered an illegal handball just like Neymar's.
It didn't stop an international uproar, and Ireland considering suing FIFA for a replay of the match. And certainly was considered an illegal handball just like Neymar's.
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Cakir was behind him and didn't see it hit his hand obviously. Hence the reason for extra officials. So that type of stuff is seen. Your arguing something entirely stupid that is 100% called differently than you are saying.
And this is the exact reason Neymar was arguing that the ball hit his shoulder. His hand was in the air, extended out in front of his body in a position very likely for the ball to hit. And how exactly is that a normal position. Most players keep their hands down when they jump to head a ball. Neymar put his hands in the air, the ball struck them, handball.
Always called when seen. 100%. The fact you're arguing this is ridiculous
And this is the exact reason Neymar was arguing that the ball hit his shoulder. His hand was in the air, extended out in front of his body in a position very likely for the ball to hit. And how exactly is that a normal position. Most players keep their hands down when they jump to head a ball. Neymar put his hands in the air, the ball struck them, handball.
Always called when seen. 100%. The fact you're arguing this is ridiculous
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Ye, and it wasnt offside on Mijatovic goal in 1998, i think you can find explanation for every mistake that every referee have ever made against us
and it was 191q234-82359% penalty on James and on Ramos in our previous CL company, ye ye
When was the last time when the referee was on our side in every 50/50 situation inside the box?
and it was 191q234-82359% penalty on James and on Ramos in our previous CL company, ye ye
When was the last time when the referee was on our side in every 50/50 situation inside the box?
Shut the fuck up, man.
The CL final was yesterday. Not 3 months ago. This holier than thou attitude is what's really pathetic.
Oooo. Look at me. I'm not complaining about referee errors the day of and the day after the game. I'm so amazing and so objective. What you guys are doing is whining and complaining about others being pissed off about the ref mistakes, and that's equally as obnoxious.
It hasn't been 3 months. Pretty much no one has said that its the only reason we lost, just that it was a big factor in shifting the momentum of the game. Which it objectively, clearly was. It hasn't been 3 months. We're not whining about this a whole season later. It's been 1 day. So you guys should really just shut the fuck up about this. This isn't at all like Milan, Roma, Inter crying about these things for 3 years after the fact. don't even try to compare it. It's 1 day. Yes. 1 day.
The CL final was yesterday. Not 3 months ago. This holier than thou attitude is what's really pathetic.
Oooo. Look at me. I'm not complaining about referee errors the day of and the day after the game. I'm so amazing and so objective. What you guys are doing is whining and complaining about others being pissed off about the ref mistakes, and that's equally as obnoxious.
It hasn't been 3 months. Pretty much no one has said that its the only reason we lost, just that it was a big factor in shifting the momentum of the game. Which it objectively, clearly was. It hasn't been 3 months. We're not whining about this a whole season later. It's been 1 day. So you guys should really just shut the fuck up about this. This isn't at all like Milan, Roma, Inter crying about these things for 3 years after the fact. don't even try to compare it. It's 1 day. Yes. 1 day.
penalty at 1-1 not called. if we scored that penalty we would win the game most likely. we conceded the 2-1 on a counter after a clear foul on Pogba. the game was decided by the ref, regardless of who was "better". clearly robbed
15 minutes of domination in an otherwise battering don't make you d/eserve to win. We didn't even create proper chances almost at all.
You say we were robbed despite all of this as if we deserved to win the game and that the ref's maliciousness (not incompetence) is why we didn't win. This is just false.
Not calling a difficult to see soft penalty + a foul + ignoring Vidal's rash behavior don't make a good case for a conspiring referee. Cancelling Neymar's goal (rightfully imo) also doesn't point towards a bought referee. Robbed is definitely too strong of a word to describe what happened in the match.
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