[CL] JUVENTUS 1-3 Barcelona (June 6th, 2015) (44 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

Don't think that pogba deserved a second yellow in any way , you're right about vidal though , he risked a lot . As for the penalty on lischt , when I saw that live I said no penalty , when I saw it on replays I thought it could have easily been a penalty , but seeing as barca didn't even bother to protest on that (only neymar protested IIRC) even they knew that a penalty was very highly unlikely for that .

his tactical foul on alves, when he pulled his shirt, thats a textbook yellow. What i am saying is the ref really didnt penalize us or cost us the game imo

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Licht's hand didn't move and it was directly by his side. Wasn't extended in the slightest. That's never a penalty.

Pogba shouldn't even have gotten a yellow to begin with when he did. And therefore should never have been in danger of a second yellow.

Vidal could have perhaps been second-yellowed, but none of his fouls after the yellow were particularly egregious so I just don't see it.

On the other hand, Pogba was clearly fouled on the edge of the area at the end of the first half, and no call. Should have been a free kick in prime Pirlo territory. Second, Pogba was tackled in the box, in what should have been an obvious penalty, but was not called. Third, Pogba was clearly fouled to start their run of play for the second goal.

To miss 1 of those is alright. To miss 2 is bad. To miss all 3 of those is an absolute disgrace and 100% biased refereeing considering the standard he set in calling fouls against Juve for absolutely every little thing, including on multiple ridiculous dives by Neymar and Suarez. Both Neymar and Suarez could have been sent off for yellows on diving alone if we want to get into players deserving 2 yellows.

Barca was the stronger team in this match imo. But the ref swallowed his whistle twice in a row, inconsistent to how he'd been calling the entire game up to that point, on two incidents that completely nullified our momentum built up, and gave it, along with the lead, back to Barca.

How this is considered anything other than a major factor is pretty ridiculous.

but also wasnt stuck to his body, you are being way too categorical on 50-50 calls

 

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[Vialli_92]

no doubt but their win was deserved tbh

Ye I agree they were the better team. The feigning of injury to try and get our players booked was so frustrating.

If they removed that from their game it would be much easier to appreciate them.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fuck football.

That is all

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Fuck football.

That is all

thats how i felt after the game, those shit plastic fans really dont deserve it, oh well money talks

 

[Post Ironic]

his tactical foul on alves, when he pulled his shirt, thats a textbook yellow. What i am saying is the ref really didnt penalize us or cost us the game imo

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but also wasnt stuck to his body, you are being way too categorical on 50-50 calls

The foul on the edge of the box at the end of the first half was not a 50/50 call. That's a 100% foul for a free kick.

The penalty against Pogba was more like 75/25 given/not given.

The foul that started the build-up to their goal was a 100% foul, not 50/50.

Licht's handball is more like 90/10 not given/given. Hand that close to the body, not moved at all. 90% of the time that isn't a penalty.

And let's be perfectly honest. If Bonucci had tackled Suarez like Alves did Pogba. 100% the ref give the penalty. We all know it.

Sorry. Barca might have won anyways, and probably deserved to win based upon overall play, but the ref was a huge factor in the game in the second half when we had the momentum and were pressing for a goal. Who knows how things would have turned out if he whistles the penalty, or even whistles the foul that started their attack for the 2nd goal. To say he was not a factor is completely ignoring both of these incidents, 1 after the other.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

thats how i felt after the game, those shit plastic fans really dont deserve it, oh well money talks

And that's the sad thing.

These plastic Barca supporters take it al for granted when it means so damn much for us.

I hate this sport sometimes. Empty feeling right now. I am proud of the boys of course, but I just hate seeing us lose another final. Hurts a lot.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The foul on the edge of the box at the end of the first half was not a 50/50 call. That's a 100% foul for a free kick.

The penalty against Pogba was more like 75/25 given/not given.

The foul that started the build-up to their goal was a 100% foul, not 50/50.

Licht's handball is more like 90/10 not given/given. Hand that close to the body, not moved at all. 90% of the time that isn't a penalty.

And let's be perfectly honest. If Bonucci had tackled Suarez like Alves did Pogba. 100% the ref give the penalty. We all know it.

Sorry. Barca might have won anyways, and probably deserved to win based upon overall play, but the ref was a huge factor in the game in the second half when we had the momentum and were pressing for a goal. Who knows how things would have turned out if he whistles the penalty, or even whistles the foul that started their attack for the 2nd goal. To say he was not a factor is completely ignoring both of these incidents, 1 after the other.

whats a 100% imo is your lack of objectivity here, licht had his arm away from his body thats a penalty but fine let's play this game, vidal gets a red around the 25-30 minute and none of the calls we lament happen, that pretty much ends the argument. Ref was a non factor, just like pirlo who should never have played this final.

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And that's the sad thing.

These plastic Barca supporters take it al for granted when it means so damn much for us.

I hate this sport sometimes. Empty feeling right now. I am proud of the boys of course, but I just hate seeing us lose another final. Hurts a lot.

but their being plastic is exactly why they dont know what it means, i want to be proud of our players, but they didnt play to their potential, and though i thank them for the effort to get us this far, i wonder why they didnt play the way they did in the beginning of the 2nd half the whole game. They were so scared of messi...

 

[DeviAngel]

For me our team WON.

I have nothing else to say except that I am proud of them.

 

[ZoSo]

what can I say, I'm so proud of our team and thanks max for getting us so far, but in the end those cunts were just too good. we gained some key experience and if we can keep our group together and improve it, I'm sure we can have another shot in 1-3 years

I can't say I'm that disappointed since I wasn't expecting us to win

 

[sallyinzaghi]

When you wrote that if we go to half time only one goal down then we will win it. And then we equalized and I immediately remembered you because at that moment I believed, I saw us winning but then that broke my heart and yours and millions others.

I really did believe they would equalize and when they did it was so possible... but alas... that few seconds when pogba was brought down and Barca scored the second... arghhhhhhh

I actually BELIEVED and it didn't happen! that sucks.

 

[KingGale]

Okay.Everything is fine.:flag2:

 

[Post Ironic]

whats a 100% imo is your lack of objectivity here, licht had his arm away from his body thats a penalty but fine let's play this game, vidal gets a red around the 25-30 minute and none of the calls we lament happen, that pretty much ends the argument. Ref was a non factor, just like pirlo who should never have played this final.

Vidal gets a red? What? After his yellow he did nothing to deserve a second yellow card. He committed like 2-3 more minor fouls total. SO... no red. Obvious.

Licht's arm was right beside his body. Literally 1-2 inches away. He didn't move it out to block the ball, and it was a clear case of ball to hand, and being beside his body. That's never a penalty. And the funny bit is you'd be in here saying the same thing if it wasn't called for Juventus at the other end. "Oh that's not a penalty, the ref was a non-factor, his arm wasn't extended." Laughable.

And trying to sound objective by going full retard in the opposite direction isn't being objective at all.

The ref was clearly a factor. He didn't call three obvious fouls on Pogba. Those weren't non-fouls. They were all 3 of them fouls. SO perhaps he doesn't call the penalty, because it's a CL final, and he doesn't want to give a penalty. He still failed to call two clear fouls outside the box, one of which lead directly to Barca scoring a goal. The other of which would have given Pirlo the fantastic free kick position Allegri was hoping for in him playing. This isn't subjective. There was contact. More contact than most of the fouls called in favour of Neymar and Suarez, and no foul was called.

Pretty much ends the argument.... Right.

Go cheer on Boca, fake fan. And cry a little more about how we're never going to get to a final again.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

lose 4 finals in a row

achievement unlocked

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Vidal gets a red? What? After his yellow he did nothing to deserve a second yellow card. He committed like 2-3 more minor fouls total. SO... no red. Obvious.

Licht's arm was right beside his body. Literally 1-2 inches away. He didn't move it out to block the ball, and it was a clear case of ball to hand, and being beside his body. That's never a penalty. And the funny bit is you'd be in here saying the same thing if it wasn't called for Juventus at the other end. "Oh that's not a penalty, the ref was a non-factor, his arm wasn't extended." Laughable.

And trying to sound objective by going full retard in the opposite direction isn't being objective at all.

The ref was clearly a factor. He didn't call three obvious fouls on Pogba. Those weren't non-fouls. They were all 3 of them fouls. SO perhaps he doesn't call the penalty, because it's a CL final, and he doesn't want to give a penalty. He still failed to call two clear fouls outside the box, one of which lead directly to Barca scoring a goal. The other of which would have given Pirlo the fantastic free kick position Allegri was hoping for in him playing. This isn't subjective. There was contact. More contact than most of the fouls called in favour of Neymar and Suarez, and no foul was called.

Pretty much ends the argument.... Right.

Go cheer on Boca, fake fan. And cry a little more about how we're never going to get to a final again.

ok thanks, and please spare me the post-mortem apology of how you lost your nerve, i am done ever discussing anything with you, kindly ignore my posts as i will yours.

 

[Post Ironic]

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

give me video of the 2nd goal, how we managed to lose the fucking ball when we had throw in when Vidal won it with his full energy

 

[sallyinzaghi]

I have so many thoughts about this match but can't even bring myself to discuss it!!! Cannot explain the feeling I feel so EMPTY and HOLLOW inside like all I want to do is just wander around somewhere by myself (this though will end with me just typing in this forum ha.)

Just... FUCK!! I feel vindicated as a Juve fan having lost so many finals. and I for once in my life really honestly believed this was IT, it had all the makings for a fairytale! HOW did it not happen??? Life is so cruel sometimes.

And then I get even sadder when I think about how our players must feel Buffon, Pirlo

 

[DeviAngel]

7 years ago we were coming fresh out from B, we were finishing 7th guys, 7TH unimaginable, not so long ago we thought we are far from final and look at us, we lost? NO we won today, our mentality is changed, we gained something more, our bond grew even stronger with this club. We we were all here all of us when we were in B and we are all in here, we are proud juventini. I am proud of my team of those players. Yes I am sad for Buffon and Pirlo but ffs Buffon already won the biggest trophy on this earth and that's our love, our respect, he is our icon and idol. What more can he get? Screw CL he has WC that big man is our captain too.

What more can we ask of our players, they bleed black and white they prove that tonight.

Grazie Ragazzi

 

[CrimsonianKing]

so what? no cl also for maradona, ronaldo, romario


@CrimsonianKing did you see this http://focusnews.com/sports/dani-alves-a-chance-to-equal-pele-at-the-champions-league-final/49725/

See why stats alone mean very little?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

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