[CL] Champions League 2015/2016 (14 Viewers)

[Elvin]

I hate clubs like Arsenal, the almost giants. Arsenal, Dortmund, Roma, City, PSG... just admit your historic mediocrity already ffs and end your misery.

 

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[napoleonic]

Don't understand the hate against dortmund, they are not a rich club and at least they actually beat us at a cl final

 

[Elvin]

how is them beating us in CL final is a reason not to hate them ffs?

 

[Martin]

how is them beating us in CL final is a reason not to hate them ffs?

it's one thing to get beaten by barcelona (then again we already hated them ahead of time, so it changes nothing). at least they are a respectable opponent

but dortmund in 1997 was a complete fluke, they played far better than us in the final but throughout the competition there was no contest we were the dominant team. that's just a really annoying way to lose, one that can plant the seeds of resentment if you get my drift.

 

[napoleonic]

how is them beating us in CL final is a reason not to hate them ffs?

it's one thing to get beaten by barcelona (then again we already hated them ahead of time, so it changes nothing). at least they are a respectable opponent

but dortmund in 1997 was a complete fluke, they played far better than us in the final but throughout the competition there was no contest we were the dominant team. that's just a really annoying way to lose, one that can plant the seeds of resentment if you get my drift.

context matter

elvin was talking about a group of clubs that supposedly never won cl and only became big in the last decade or such mainly because of money factor, I see dortmund being an exception amongst the names mentioned...

and actually martin, the fact that some unknown outplayed us (who were equivalent to barca today) at that time made their accomplishment even better, totally imcomparable to the likes of roma psg city arsenal; and hey at least dortmund have a cl trophy...

 

[s4tch]

i only blame the scudetto celebrations and the lack of proper preparation for the lost final to dortmund. i can't hate the germans for that. we played like shit in the final, that's something juventus can't afford.

 

[Ocelot]

context matter

elvin was talking about a group of clubs that supposedly never won cl and only became big in the last decade or such mainly because of money factor, I see dortmund being an exception amongst the names mentioned...

and actually martin, the fact that some unknown outplayed us (who were equivalent to barca today) at that time made their accomplishment even better, totally imcomparable to the likes of roma psg city arsenal; and hey at least dortmund have a cl trophy...

Elvin was talking about second/thir tier clubs, the ones that perhaps have a good generation every 20 years and are somewhere between 4th &10th place otherwise.

Don't know why those clubs would deserve to be hated though.

 

[Hust]

Tbh if Bayern don't take the option (which I'm almost certain won't happen, with the deal most likely being done the way it is for accounting purposes), it would've been quite a bad deal, as that would mean that Coman pretty much flopped there, and we'd get a subpar player back.

...only to sell and still make a PROFIT. Why is it so complicated? He cost us ZERO dollars to buy and have already made 8m off of him.

 

[Ocelot]

...only to sell and still make a PROFIT. Why is it so complicated? He cost us ZERO dollars to buy and have already made 8m off of him.

No one's saying that we made a mistake in getting him last year. That was a brilliant move.

But if Bayern don't buy him (which, again, I very much doubt), we could've made more out of him this mercato, be it in monetary terms or simply by playing and developin him ourselves.

 

[Völler]

Oh... We're discussing Coman in here as well.

 

[Hust]

No one's saying that we made a mistake in getting him last year. That was a brilliant move.

But if Bayern don't buy him (which, again, I very much doubt), we could've made more out of him this mercato, be it in monetary terms or simply by playing and developin him ourselves.

got it now. Makes sense

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Oh... We're discussing Coman in here as well.

I will reply to yours after a while

 

[Völler]

I will reply to yours after a while

You better!

 

[dolph]

Tbh if Bayern don't take the option (which I'm almost certain won't happen, with the deal most likely being done the way it is for accounting purposes), it would've been quite a bad deal, as that would mean that Coman pretty much flopped there, and we'd get a subpar player back.

If it was for accounting purposes it would have been an obligation and not an option.

 

[euromax]

BTW it was our first win in England since 1996.

Good omen that because who won the champions league that year I wonder.

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If EPL fanboys and pundits keep claiming the EPL is more important than CL and EL so they don't care about it why not just drop out of those competitions all together? I am tired of hearing the "EPL games take too much out of us" excuse every year. EPL now is nowhere deep and competitive as Serie A was in the 90s and Italian clubs still dominated Europe.

I think the EPL is 4th best league in Europe, La-Liga number 1 with the Bundesliga and Serie A two and three.

 

[Ronn]

Who said Forza injuries yesterday?
Szczesny out for 6 weeks, Rafinha torn ACL

 

[Ventus]

I can relate to what the EPL teams are going through at the moment.

Remember how Inter Milan were dominant in Serie A, but flopped in Europe?
Remember how when Serie A went through that blip phase in seasons: 00,01 and 02, despite having arguably the best league and players?

The thing is I wish they would have given Serie A the same excuses they give themselves back then: "Wrong tactics but qualty league" "poor management but quality league", or "their teams don't care about the Europa League/Uefa cup".

Because all I heard back then was; "this is further evidence that Serie A is trash" or "had Inter been in the EPL, they would have been average, they only dominate because they are in a weak leaugue."

 

[JCK]

@Osman @Suns @the rest of the nordics

http://www.svenskafans.com/italien/ar-det-dar-allt-ni-har-premier-league-538516.aspx

 

[AOD4]

Thomas Müller, who scored twice in the success of his Bayern Monaco speaks of victory against Olympiacos: "The atmosphere tonight was unbelievable, it was not easy to play in this stadium. Olympiacos have won their last six games at home in the Champions League, even against teams of the highest level as Juventus and Manchester United. We were perfectly aware of what we should expect here and we are very happy to have won 3 to 0. And 'was a difficult game but in the end we achieved our objective. We were the best team and we won deservedly through hard work. It 'was the perfect result in a transfer complicated. It is not easy for any team to come here and win, we are really happy to start with a win our way in the Champions. "

 

[Amer]

The game and win against City was important for us on so many levels, but IMO the most important thing is that we are a force in CL again and we don't suffer in this competition.

 

[Enron]

People wouldn't have complained one bit if we received that €28m now but we aren't.It's €5m this yr and €3m the next.Bulk of the fee will be received in 2017 where €28m would be the new €10m.
If people actually looked at the bigger picture taking inflation into account, they'll see this as a really poor deal.We are basically banking on Coman turning into a giant flop to justify this poorly made deal.

That could very well be the case. He could just be a mediocre player. I don't remember him doing much as a Juve player. People seem to have this idea of Coman being this hidden Pogba.