[CL] Champions League 2012/13 (53 Viewers)

[Red]

No.
13 games against top clubs < 38 games against top clubs, mid-table club, bottom clubs, it's pretty obvious.

even against only Siena, Palermo, Pescara etc.

If you are Juve, you are the best team in Serie A by a fair margin.

You are not one of the three best teams in Europe, I think it would be fair to say.

Are you telling me that it's harder for Juve to win Serie A than the CL?

 

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[Klovn]

He's smart, I need an IQ lower than 80.

LowLife..

 

[TrezJuve]

LowLife..

What happened to him?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

If you are Juve, you are the best team in Serie A by a fair margin.

You are not one of the three best teams in Europe, I think it would be fair to say.

Are you telling me that it's harder for Juve to win Serie A than the CL?

No doubt

 

[TrezJuve]

Rus, you serious?

 

[Marty]

You are not one of the three best teams in Europe, I think it would be fair to say.

Blasphemy! j/k

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Rus, you serious?

yes, i am, when you will become better in football aspects you will realize it, it's harder to win league than cup, that's it, even 2 time winner of CL are saying it, what more can i say?

 

[Red]

No doubt

Let's move it to a team who are the best team in Europe as well as in their own league.

The best team in a league almost invariably wins it.

Looking back through the CL, I'd say the best team has won the competition less than half the time relatively recently.

Why is that?

If the CL is easier to win, why doesn't the best team win it more often?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Let's move it to a team who are the best team in Europe as well as in their own league.

The best team in a league almost invariably wins it.

Looking back through the CL, I'd say the best team has won the competition less than half the time relatively recently.

Why is that?

If the CL is easier to win, why doesn't the best team win it more often?

Because of the cup system! Away goal rule, for example. Even Chelsea managed to win it while they were only 6th team in England, plus Milan, Liverpool etc. And if you look deeper, you will found out that since group stage round was introduced there more than 50% of the winners of CL has made a double - league title + cl

 

[Red]

Because of the cup system! Away goal system, for example. Even Chelsea managed to win it while they were only 6th team in England, plus Milan, Liverpool etc.

I still don't see how that equates to it being easier.

You can, to some extent, win a CL by getting lucky, which isn't really possible in a league (no matter what Milan say about the 'gol di Muntari'), though, because of the quick-fire format.

And if you look deeper, you will found out that since group stage round was introduced there more than 50% of the winners of CL has made a double - league title + cl

That doesn't mecessarily mean much.

Covers a freak winner like Porto and a winner like Barca in 2008/09, who were undoubtedly the best team in Europe.

 

[Marty]

BTW, Ribery misses clash against Arsenal while Xavi is back vs Milan

 

[ALC]

Chelsea came back from 3-1 against Napoli

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I still don't see how that equates to it being easier.

You can, to some extent, win a CL by getting lucky, which isn't really possible in a league (no matter what Milan say about the 'gol di Muntari'), though, because of the quick-fire format.



That doesn't mecessarily mean much.

Covers a freak winner like Porto and a winner like Barca in 2008/09, who were undoubtedly the best team in Europe.

lol....if you can't understand that it's harder to win the league than the cup i don't know who could help you

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Chelsea came back from 3-1 against Napoli

And you don't have to make a comebacks in the league, you just need to collect more points than any other teams, you can't be lucky in 38 games, but you can in some games in the play-off system and it will be enough for you to win the trophy:
1/8 home 0-0 away 1-1
1/4 home 0-0 away 1-1
1/2 home 0-0 away 1-1
final 0-0 (5-4 on penalties)
and trophy is yours

Barcelona, Bayern or Celtic, don't look at the opponents, look at the system, it's not that hard

 

[ALC]

I'm just saying, if Chelsea did it at their worst, maybe Arsenal can too

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I'm just saying, if Chelsea did it at their worst, maybe Arsenal can too

System is saying that they can, now it comes to Arsenal, even L'pool has managed to make a comeback from 0-3 in the final..

 

[Klovn]

What happened to him?

I don't know.

 

[acmilan]

To give Pique something to read?

to give just about anyone something to read ... but Pique could well be topping his list

 

[Bufi]

No doubt

So why Juve won 31 Scudetto and only two CHL?

 

[acmilan]

So, Forza Milan everyone?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I'm just saying, if Chelsea did it at their worst, maybe Arsenal can too

ALC please, I'm eating.