[CL] Champions League 2010/11 (20 Viewers)

[Red]

well if we re talking personal opinions, i think no religious, political, or social platform should be pushed through sports. Once you step on the field nothing else should matter.

I agree.

Scottish football is very unpleasant.

 

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[Martin]

I think so too. I equate it to being the same as the uber-religious secretary that insists on emailing the entire office staff articles discussing the decline of morals in society.

Or the weekly batch of hilarious chain mail.

 

[Zé Tahir]

What gives you the right to judge what does or doesn't harm someone (in particular) or some group.

Praying in the middle of a football pitch harms (or offends or whatever you want to call it) some people.
Wearing the mentioned t shirt does the same, albeit to a different group of people.
Now, which side is right. Or which side should respect the other?

Never mind though, I already explained my point yesterday.

At one point River Plate were sponsored by Budweiser. Should they ditch their sponsor if...say they played a friendly in Jeddah? That can "offend" people.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

You tell me

 

[Zé Tahir]

I just wanted to see how far you were willing to go

I could care less.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I just wanted to see how far you were willing to go

I could care less.

I just got involved in the whole argument because our illustrious JBF failed to see both sides of the story. Which, when asking for "respect" for someone or a certain group of people, is rather annoying.

Or funny, depending on how you look at it

 

[Nicholas]

Inter got in trouble for wearing their away strip with the red cross in Turkey if I remember correctly, they were accused of supporting the crusades.

 

[Alen]

I had a bet that Messi will surpass Raul in the CL all-time topscorer list
It's only CL knock-outs and group stages (not Super cups, not Uefa and not CL qualifiers). You think I stand a chance?

1. Raul 68
2. Ruud van Nistelrooij 56
3. Thierry Henry 50
4. Filippo Inzaghi 46
5. Andrii Shevchenko 46
6. Alessandro Del Piero 41
7. Fernando Morientes 33
8. Didier Drogba 32
9. Lionel Messi 30
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[Red]

As long as Raul doesn't reach 75 or so, I'd think you're safe enough with that bet.

What odds did you get?

 

[Alen]

As long as Raul doesn't reach 75 or so, I'd think you're safe enough with that bet.

What odds did you get?

No odds, it's a bet with my brother. We still have an ongoing Raul vs Pippo bet for all time topscorer in Europe, but the stupid rat's injury destroyed all my chances.

 

[lil zlatan]

I had a bet that Messi will surpass Raul in the CL all-time topscorer list
It's only CL knock-outs and group stages (not Super cups, not Uefa and not CL qualifiers). You think I stand a chance?

1. Raul 68
2. Ruud van Nistelrooij 56
3. Thierry Henry 50
4. Filippo Inzaghi 46
5. Andrii Shevchenko 46
6. Alessandro Del Piero 41
7. Fernando Morientes 33
8. Didier Drogba 32
9. Lionel Messi 30

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Do you know how many goals Ibra have??

 

[Fred]

You tell me

No you tell us, you were the one that suggested Hernandez shouldn't pray. I'd like to hear you, Red and Hoori's take on this. A "Budweiser" shirt would be greatly offensive in Saudi Arabia and Libya, two countries that ban alchohol.

 

[JBF]

Libya bans Alcohol? Where does Gaddafi get his from then?

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I hope you don't mind, Fred, but I have very little interest in continuing this discussion. We can go back & forth about this for weeks, we won't get anywhere. Certain actions are offensive to certain groups (of) people. Certain other actions are offensive to certain other groups of people. Don't know why this is so difficult to understand...

Personally I'm not easily offended anyway: praying in front of me is ok, drawing an offensive cartoon is ok, ...
And I'd like to think that I at least try to respect different points of view. I'm also not the one who goes shouting about "respecting my beliefs & choices" while not giving a damn about other people's beliefs & choices.

Besides, I don't think I suggested he shouldn't pray, I merely think it would be a better idea for him to do it in private.

 

[Gabriel]

People who get offended over such stupid things should get their heads out of their asses and fuck off, simple as that.

And fuck Hernandez.

 

[Alen]

Do you know how many goals Ibra have??

23, but 1 of those is in CL qualifiers so I'm not counting it.

6 for Ajax
3 for Juve
6 for Inter
4 for Barca
3 for Milan

Here is the full list (15 goals and more).

1. Raul 68
2. Ruud van Nistelrooij 56
3. Thierry Henry 50
4. Filippo Inzaghi 46
5. Andrii Shevchenko 46
6. Alessandro Del Piero 41
7. Fernando Morientes 33
8. Didier Drogba 32
9. Lionel Messi 30
10. David Trezeguet 29
11. Roy Makaay 29
12. Patrick Kluivert 29
13. Rivaldo 27
14. Ryan Giggs 26
15. Hernan Crespo 25
16. Samuel Eto'o 25
17. Giovane Elber 25
18. Mario Jardel 25
19. Paul Scholes 24
20. Luis Figo 24
21. Kaka 24
22. Jari Litmanen 23
23. Cristiano Ronaldo 23
24. Zlatan Ibrahimovic 22
25. Wayne Rooney 20
26. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 20
27. Marco Simone 20
28. Serhii Rebrov 20
29. Steven Gerrard 19
30. Luis Enrique 19
31. Nicolas Anelka 18
32. Andy Cole 18
33. Frank Lampard 18
34. Juninho 18
35. John Carew 18
36. Ronaldinho 17
37. Guti 16
38. David Beckham 16
39. Francesco Totti 15
40. Diego Tristán 15
41. Simone Inzaghi 15
42. Javier Saviola 15
43. Ivan Helguera 15
44. Michael Ballack 15
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45. Ronaldo 14

 

[Gabriel]

Ivan Helguera 15? Wow.

 

[Alen]

Ivan Helguera 15? Wow.

Back when he played for Real, and when Real were doing great, the finalists played 17 matches in 1 season.
He was still doing great. In 2000/2001 he scored 6 goals in CL
http://euro.futbal.org/EC1.scorers.php?year=0&ignoreQuals=1&firstYear=41&player=Ivan Helguera

 

[Ramin]

Simone Inzaghi 15 goals! The guy sucked

I remember once he scored 4 or 5 goals in one CL game, due to couple of red cards I think. when did he score the rest?...

Edit: Just checked his stats - He has played 87 matches in Serie A and scored 8 goal , yet he has 15 alone in CL.

 

[Neutrol]

Congrats to Deschamps and OM