[CL] Champions League 2010/11 (26 Viewers)

[Nicholas]

I noticed you stayed out of the Dzeko-Neymar debate this time

 

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[Bozi]

god knows but well all just call them cunts,we ain't prejudiced though...we call both sides cunts

 

[Red]

I noticed you stayed out of the Dzeko-Neymar debate this time

I can't be bothered re-stating what I said before.

My opinion hasn't changed.

 

[Fred]

Religion has no place in football.

Fergie knows first hand about Rangers' anti-Catholic ways and he is right to tell the kid not to do it.







It's also my habit when playing football to wear a t-shirt under my strip with a replica of the Danish cartoonist's drawing of Muhammad on it.


On a side note, some Huns were monkey chanting Aluko at the weekend. First time I've heard monkey chanting at a Scottish ground in many years.

What a silly analogy. Saying a prayer is very different than say... wearing a t-shirt with a picture of hitler on it, while playing against Macabbi Haifa.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

For real. If the dude wants to pray, let him frigging pray.

 

[Nicholas]

Then let him be served up at Taco Bell.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why Taco Bell?

 

[Nicholas]

Hernandes is Mexican and Taco Bell serves Mexican food.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

And what does that have do with him wanting to pray? Are we gonna take that right away from people too?

 

[Nicholas]

Forget it the joke has long gone.

 

[Byrone]

You're still here.

 

[Nicholas]

 

[JBF]

ok,so it is my pre-match ritual to eat a massive bacon sandwich before in the centre circle before every game,i just got a transfer to a muslim country...should i still do this?

Not every muslim country has that big of a problem regarding bacon you know. Here many rely on the bacon farming trade for a living but oh well let's say on topic. Yes, he should if by that you mean doing a part of a ritual you believe in even if it's against the beliefs of other people as long as it is harmless to them.

Oh and you bet I lose my nerves when It's intolerant cunts we're talking about, but that's just me.

It's also my habit when playing football to wear a t-shirt under my strip with a replica of the Danish cartoonist's drawing of Muhammad on it.

Yea, that really is the definition of harmless

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Yea, that really is the definition of harmless

How is it not?

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I think they do it for psychological purposes, it may relief him from stress and actually comfort him. Whatever maybe the reason, anyone should be entitled to do whatever prayer he wants as long as it's harmless to everyone else and by that I mean physically not emotionally.

Or do you think wearing a t-shirt can cause physical harm to someone?

 

[JBF]

Only to the one wearing it in this case. But are you really comparing someone praying in the center of a pitch to one deliberately wearing an offensive T-Shirt that it can in no way relate to anything but causing trouble and harm to others. even if it's not physical.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

What gives you the right to judge what does or doesn't harm someone (in particular) or some group.

Praying in the middle of a football pitch harms (or offends or whatever you want to call it) some people.
Wearing the mentioned t shirt does the same, albeit to a different group of people.
Now, which side is right. Or which side should respect the other?

Never mind though, I already explained my point yesterday.

 

[JBF]

It's not the case of what is offensive but what is meant to be just that. In the case of Hernandez he's being asked to not do what he believes in and most importantly what he always does regardless of whom it is he's playing. He ain't doing it out of disrespect, he's simply practicing a bit of his religion. Contrary to the shirt example, where a player would wear that shirt for simply disrespecting and go on the offensive against a group of people.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

I'm all for freedom of speech and practicing religion, but compromise would be good no, I'm sure he can find a less.. obvious way to pray just this once? Ideally crowd at ibrox shouldn't have a problem with it but well it's not an ideal world.

 

[Bozi]

What a silly analogy. Saying a prayer is very different than say... wearing a t-shirt with a picture of hitler on it, while playing against Macabbi Haifa.

you...of all people should understand the tensions in Glasgow

For real. If the dude wants to pray, let him frigging pray.

his funeral

Not every muslim country has that big of a problem regarding bacon you know. Here many rely on the bacon farming trade for a living but oh well let's say on topic. Yes, he should if by that you mean doing a part of a ritual you believe in even if it's against the beliefs of other people as long as it is harmless to them.

Oh and you bet I lose my nerves when It's intolerant cunts we're talking about, but that's just me.


Yea, that really is the definition of harmless

Only to the one wearing it in this case. But are you really comparing someone praying in the center of a pitch to one deliberately wearing an offensive T-Shirt that it can in no way relate to anything but causing trouble and harm to others. even if it's not physical.

what you fail to understand is the religious intolerances of these bigoted morons on both sides of the divide,there has been over 125 years of Old Firm fans defining themselves by their religious beliefs and stoking the hatred between catholics and protestants. THIS by the way,is the real reason for Rangers and Celtics success,the troubles in Northern Ireland brought it to the surface even more and lit the torch paper underneath it,Glawegians never needed a reason to go around stabbing each other but now they had a reason to excuse their behaviour.
what you have to understand is that Rangers fans don't have a problem with Catholics praying...they have a problem with catholics living!

or maybe we should ask Turk how he would feel if Chelsea came to play and Yossi Benayoun stod in the centre circle and said Shemoneh Esreh