[CL] Champions League 2010/11 (22 Viewers)

[swag]

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise that Arsenal were in no way winning this. Red card made no difference whatsoever. The amount of shots from Arsenal though..

Yes, but stats don't mean shit compared to the goals scored at the end. How many counterattacking teams pick apart opponents with those kinds of lopsided statistical numbers? Enough to make the match worth playing, that's for sure. How many time have Juve lost to the likes of Chievo with this kind of imbalance? Too frequently in recent matchups, to be honest.

I'm glad Arsenal is out. But I hope Barca is next.

 

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[Alen]

Red card made no difference whatsoever

Yes, because Barca were comfortably winning until the 56th minute and the red card. It's quite clear that a full Arsenal team stood no chances and they were gonna concede 2 goals in those 34 minutes even without the red card.
Hell, if they didn't get a red card they might have conceded 3 or 4 instead of two goals.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

why does it matter how many passes they completed? after arsenal tied you could see the momentum slipping away from barca, they started getting scared and then the red card, disgrace...

 

[YasoR17]

Red card did not make any difference

Did you not see the game? Barca were all over Arsenal's half from the first minute. That red card to RVP made no difference because Arsenal were already shit. Seriously, zero shots to Barca's 19, how can you not see Arsenal were doomed from start to finish?

 

[Linebreak]

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise that Arsenal were in no way winning this. Red card made no difference whatsoever. The amount of shots from Arsenal though..

At least they scored against the best team in the world - we're chasing our 4th consecutive clean sheet

 

[Osman]

One man less in general is difference, but how did the games overall picture change with 10 men Arsenal? One less option to pass to offensively (less chance to get desperate counter attack), but Arsenal didnt get to touch the ball with RVP on, and didnt get to either with him sent off. Pretty much status quo on pre and post that sending off.

 

[Fake Melo]

Did you not see the game? Barca were all over Arsenal's half from the first minute. That red card to RVP made no difference because Arsenal were already shit. Seriously, zero shots to Barca's 19, how can you not see Arsenal were doomed from start to finish?

Yeah, because it was what, 35 minutes left to play? Why don't you check out stats from last years semifinal against Inter as well? Wasn't Barca all over Inter too?

The red card made a huge difference, even a dead blind cat could tell. Who cares how many shots Barca had? The score was 1-1, the game ended 3-1 after the red card.

 

[ALC]

The better team definitely won. Arsenal were just horrid the second half and Barca showed they're a class above. Could've scored a couple more goals had Almunia not been so lucky. The red card was still stupid as shit though.

 

[Alen]

why does it matter how many passes they completed? after arsenal tied you could see the momentum slipping away from barca, they started getting scared and then the red card, disgrace...

True.

The result was against them and they had only ~35 minutes to go. If Arsenal defended the first 10-15 minutes then Barca were gonna become more and more nervous.
Also, defending against Barca requires too much running and with a man less it's 10 times harder to defend against Messi and co.
The red card was a game changer. 11 on 11 it was a 50-50 match, 11 vs 10 was a 95-5.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

One man less in general is difference, but how did the games overall picture change with 10 men Arsenal? One less option to pass to offensively (less chance to get desperate counter attack), but Arsenal didnt get to touch the ball with RVP on, and didnt get to either with him sent off. Pretty much status quo on pre and post that sending off.

its not one man less, its being away at the camp nou with a 100K people whistling your every move and just when you get your head up the ref pull the rug from under your feet. Very few teams can dela with that kind of injustice away, they re not machines, they re human

 

[Osman]

Jack: Dont talk to me. If you dont have anything to say yourself, nor dont even bother watching the game discussed, then butt out. Not gonna bother with your childish aversion/phobia to a frigging football club, or senseless stubborness and jabs to anyone who disagrees with you in any way. If you dont want to directly discuss the topic, just shut it and dont address me. It is that simple.

 

[Suns]

19 shots is a lot.

Although I don't agree with the red card why did RVP just shoot the ball if he didn't hear the whistle and didn't know he was offside? Surely he would have kept running with the ball to get off a shot much closer to goal.

 

[Alen]

One man less in general is difference, but how did the games overall picture change with 10 men Arsenal? One less option to pass to offensively (less chance to get desperate counter attack), but Arsenal didnt get to touch the ball with RVP on, and didnt get to either with him sent off. Pretty much status quo on pre and post that sending off.

I'll tell you how it changes things. Because of that one man less in Arsenal's attack, Barca could push two more players forward and push the entire team more forward, without the slightest worry about the defense.

 

[Ironz]

Of course the sending off changed the game, as it would change any other. Even with all Barca domination you still have to stick the ball at the back of the net. which they were struggling to do at the time. And it would have been interesting to see if the Barca crowd with the scoreline still at 1-1 with time running out getting frustrated with the team to see how they (the players) would have reacted. Arsenal played a high defensive line and i was confident that if they still had 11 players on the pitch that L'arse would have made it through.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise that Arsenal were in no way winning this. Red card made no difference whatsoever. The amount of shots from Arsenal though..

regardless that Barca were much better today, but what I really notice of Barca football, that they push you when u have the ball, and mostly I see as fouls and the fucking ref just keep the play.
Barca always make so many fouls even if they are just knock or small push but it is a foul, the same knock or push if it was against Barca it is given a foul, and that looks like a trend when Barca face crucial matches
and the red card was extremely harsh, it looks as if I would favor a team I would use small incidents to favor them and not by awarding penalties or cards, like the yellow card also for Sanga, if it was Barca player instead of Sanga, he by no chance would have been booked for it

it is really annoying with people around who think that there is two teams in the world Real and Barca, who think football is just the la liga

 

[Osman]

its not one man less, its being away at the camp nou with a 100K people whistling your every move and just when you get your head up the ref pull the rug from under your feet. Very few teams can dela with that kind of injustice away, they re not machines, they re human

10 man less is defenitely a handicap, but in this case, disagree with saying its the reason they lost. They were as outplayed with 11 men as 10, even if latter mentality diminished Arsenal, the actual gameplay stayed pretty identical.

 

[blondu]

the red card killed arsenal's hope for a goal (from action ...)

 

[Osman]

I'll tell you how it changes things. Because of that one man less in Arsenal's attack, Barca could push two more players forward and push the entire team more forward, without the slightest worry about the defense.

Quite true. Even if Barca had them pinned back easily with 11 man Arsenal still (0 attempts at shot says it all), 10 men made it more manageable. Only thing I mean is that its not the reason Arsenal lost. In a more even game, it would be.

 

[Alen]

regardless that Barca is were much better today, but what I really notice of Barca football, that they push you when u have the ball, and mostly I see as fouls and the fucking ref just keep the play.
Barca always make so many fouls even if they are just knock or small push but it is a foul, the same knock or push if it was against Barca it is given a foul, and that looks like a trend when Barca face crucial matches

I kinda disagree with this, mondolon. Yeah, sometimes there are small fouls, but most of the times it's clean. Barca are playing a nice pressing game when they don't have possession. One of the things I'd like my team to do too. We don't have the technique to play Barca's attacking football, but we could press the other team the way they do. We used to do it a lot under Capello.

 

[Bjerknes]

Any red card is a game changer. It can either totally destroy a side's demeanor and defensive ability, or it can act as a catalyst for a pissed off response that could win the match. Unfortunately Arsenal decided to cower and give up.