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Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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NYJuve said:
I suggest you to count the assists made this year in our team...
I'm sorry, but I would never take Ibra off the field.
And our game should be on the right-side tomorrow.
Zambro-Camo could be devastating!
yes, assists, assists, but we are talking about infrom players. is ibra right now in the form that he deservs starting place? and heck it obvious he has to give something to team so his assists are not excuse. this is highlevel football and not only assists. good partnership is when both players can finish their chanses. I wouldnt say ibra is very good support striker, yes you say assists again, but still he can be selfish.
 

giovanotti

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Azzurri7 said:
You count me the Assists If possible(I'm waiting).

You would never take Ibra off the field??? well, you explained everything with this sentence.

I'm not going to continue repeating the same shite.
9 assists according to my notes:

1 vs Empoli
1 vs Parma
1 vs inter
1 vs Livorno
1 vs Roma
2 vs Treviso
1 vs Fiorentina
1 vs Rapid
 

NYJuve

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Mar 15, 2006
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Azzurri7 said:
David Trezeguet Is actually in a great form. Atleast he's one of the best finishers If not the best. He knows how to end the ball something Ibra is not learning yet.

And talking about his 2wasted chances, remmber that he played for 30min only.
I'm not denying that.
Trezeguet plays well when he puts behind the goalie the 1/2 balls that he touches every match.
This year, he has been great in that.
Everybody misses chances. I just said that if Ibra missed that chance, we would be reading the unreadable here. Same thing with the goal that DP missed in Livorno 10 days ago on Ibra's assist (actually that was even a greater chance).

I'm just saying that we use different methods to judge our players' performances. And not always they're fair.
 

Azzurri7

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giovanotti said:
9 assists according to my notes:

1 vs Empoli
1 vs Parma
1 vs inter
1 vs Livorno
1 vs Roma
2 vs Treviso
1 vs Fiorentina
1 vs Rapid
I think they're 7.....but Even If they were 9 How many matches did he play from the beg of the season?????

Too much comapring to his assists.
 

NYJuve

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Azzurri7 said:
Do they call you glory-hunter at school?
I was done with school quite a long time ago. And I've probably seen more Juve's players than you. If we've been patient with DP (actually getting good results this year) for years, I don't see why we can't be patient with Ibra for few months.
 

Stephan

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NYJuve said:
I'm not denying that.
Trezeguet plays well when he puts behind the goalie the 1/2 balls that he touches every match.
This year, he has been great in that.
Everybody misses chances. I just said that if Ibra missed that chance, we would be reading the unreadable here. Same thing with the goal that DP missed in Livorno 10 days ago on Ibra's assist (actually that was even a greater chance).

I'm just saying that we use different methods to judge our players' performances. And not always they're fair.
the fact is that ibra has missed too often and remember, in the news there was a article about ibra training his finishing, so its obvious fans expect a result of the trainings in the match. but that didnt follow.
 

Stephan

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NYJuve said:
I was done with school quite a long time ago. And I've probably seen more Juve's players than you. If we've been patient with DP (actually getting good results this year) for years, I don't see why we can't be patient with Ibra for few months.
what you mean with that? patient with dp? explaine, please.
 

giovanotti

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NYJuve said:
I'm not denying that.
Trezeguet plays well when he puts behind the goalie the 1/2 balls that he touches every match.
This year, he has been great in that.
Everybody misses chances. I just said that if Ibra missed that chance, we would be reading the unreadable here. Same thing with the goal that DP missed in Livorno 10 days ago on Ibra's assist (actually that was even a greater chance).

I'm just saying that we use different methods to judge our players' performances. And not always they're fair.
The fact is that Ibrahimovic has started the season with assists and no goals,now he is not even assisting.
He is just losing the ball,passing it behind the player and trying some "Ibra one on one movements" and than lose the ball again.
 

NYJuve

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Stephan said:
what you mean with that? patient with dp? explaine, please.
We've been patient with Lippi and Ancelotti starting him when he wasn't even close to be that player that he was before he got injured. We must admit that if we're honest fans.
 

Juve_25

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Stephan said:
what you mean with that? patient with dp? explaine, please.
I thought he just was a "zlatan is god" juve fan (which is ok for me), but with that opoinion I can see he is also a "dp sucks" juve fan (which I can respect but I can't tolerate). Correct me if I'm wrong
 

Azzurri7

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NYJuve said:
I was done with school quite a long time ago. And I've probably seen more Juve's players than you. If we've been patient with DP (actually getting good results this year) for years, I don't see why we can't be patient with Ibra for few months.

Yeah just like you proved me last time with your post to be patient with him season 01-02-03 where he won two Scud and a champions league final and bein best Italian player season 02-03:howler:.

I actually thought you were glory hunter after you stated that you'd never take him off the pitch.
 

giovanotti

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I think they're 7.....but Even If they were 9 How many matches did he play from the beg of the season?????

Too much comapring to his assists.
For the first part, 9 is if we count the assist against inter(from the free kick which Cesar deflected to Trez)....so without that it is 8 actualy.


And for the second part,you're totally right!
 

NYJuve

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Juve_25 said:
I thought he just was a "zlatan is god" juve fan (which is ok for me), but with that opoinion I can see he is also a "dp sucks" juve fan (which I can respect but I can't tolerate). Correct me if I'm wrong
DP doesn't suck.
He's been the best player in the world (or among the top 5) until 1998.
He's a great person.
He's been great (not that 1994-98 great though) this year and final part of last year because Capello started him from the bench. This is a fact.
Baggio, who's hasn't been as great as DP imo, followed the same path.
 

Stephan

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NYJuve said:
We've been patient with Lippi and Ancelotti starting him when he wasn't even close to be that player that he was before he got injured. We must admit that if we're honest fans.
but you just sayd it, he got injured. these things can happen and that time juve didnt had maby as good backups as now. as i said mutu expierenced player and well dp is in good form this season. but has ibra got injured? i mean big injury? no. so whats the problems, why his form is not good?

If you say its because his under pressure, then i blame coach. because coach should use differant tactics then, variety, we have good strikers, lets use differant tactics(not in every match, but sometimes).
 

Azzurri7

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NYJuve said:
DP doesn't suck.
He's been the best player in the world (or among the top 5) until 1998.
He's a great person.
He's been great (not that 1994-98 great though) this year and final part of last year because Capello started him from the bench. This is a fact.
Baggio, who's hasn't been as great as DP imo, followed the same path.

Again, 2001-2002-2003 is not mentioned:howler:

You DO know alot about Juve eh???
 

giovanotti

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NYJuve said:
We've been patient with Lippi and Ancelotti starting him when he wasn't even close to be that player that he was before he got injured. We must admit that if we're honest fans.

That is true,but you cannot compare the player who spent so many years with us and some hotshoot Ibrahimovic who is here just for a season and half.
 

3pac

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May 7, 2004
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NYJuve said:
DP doesn't suck.
He's been the best player in the world (or among the top 5) until 1998.
He's a great person.
He's been great (not that 1994-98 great though) this year and final part of last year because Capello started him from the bench. This is a fact.
Baggio, who's hasn't been as great as DP imo, followed the same path.


:disagree:
 

Juve_25

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Jan 3, 2006
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NYJuve said:
DP doesn't suck.
He's been the best player in the world (or among the top 5) until 1998.
He's a great person.
He's been great (not that 1994-98 great though) this year and final part of last year because Capello started him from the bench. This is a fact.
Baggio, who's hasn't been as great as DP imo, followed the same path.
Well my bad. Nice to know you weren't a "dp sucks" fan. At least until 1998.
 
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