But, but, but, he beat Napoli's reserves?
5th place after Napoli's game tonight.
5th place after Napoli's game tonight.
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and thats the reality of the situation
33 points from 20 games = 1.5 points per game, at this rate we will finish the season on 57 points.... that tally of points is what mid table teams look to achieve, if we keep ciro we need to get used to this new europa league. And to think we all used to support Juventus...
33 points from 20 games = 1.5 points per game, at this rate we will finish the season on 57 points.... that tally of points is what mid table teams look to achieve, if we keep ciro we need to get used to this new europa league. And to think we all used to support Juventus...
This is my first post here, although I've been following the boards for months now. So go easy one me please.
Ok. I am writing this answering those who would say that we Shouldn't change the coach.
I completly understand that the players suck, they play without heart, that Secco is an idiot...etc.
But lets just look at some facts first:
-Ranieri had a much weaker team. He lost 6 games in all of our Serie A matches. We've already lost 7.
-We've been beaten by teams that are BY FACT much weaker than us in every single position. Name me ONE Chievo player who is better than ONE Juve player. There are non. Which means that with or without a manager we should easily beat them. the fact that we ddin't means there is no tactical awareness WHATSOEVER, which goes back to the manager.
So the fact is we HAVE to blame the manager.
We are out of the champions league, we'll be fifth place tonight, and we have been humiliated over 5 times.. All things that didn't occur under a terrible manager, Ranieri, who most of you wanted out right away. A manager who did MUCH better with a MUCH worse team.
And then to anoither point.
This manager has failed to use a single formation.
It is managerial basics that players actuallly need time to adapt to a formation. This manager changes the formation everytime we lose a match.
How is that even possible?? At least Ranieri had one and stuck to it through thick and thin.
And the ONE formation that works.. he drops.. and why? No one knows.
Our best, most influential player on the field, Giovinco barely gets a chance, while Marchisio who is actually a central Midfielder gets brutally thrown on the left to do Giovinco's job. WHY THE HELL?
We have the Italy's best winger and we don't play him.. is he BLIND?
And Amauri... who hasn't scored for months and months and yet gets chosen over Immobile time and time again.
And then we should come to Ferrara's transfer strategy.
Yes, I know, Secco makes the decisions.
But Ferrara actually stated in an interview concerning the January transfer window that we are covered at the back and we don't need any more reiforcements in that department. Is he serious? Is that what he calls a covered backline??
We have eight defenders.. HA HA HA.
So.. the fact is we NEED a new managr. Not even someone like Hiddink. but someone who at least knows the basics of management.
Yes, we do have a bad team. but not a terrible team.
We have the world's best goalkeeper, the world's best defender, a starting Brazilian Defensive Midfielder, the Bundesliga's best player, one of Italy's two biggest prospects in Giovinco and Marchisio, and Juve's alltime best striker.
We should beat Chievo with those six players blindfolded.
Don't be blinded by your love for Ferrara.
Ok. I am writing this answering those who would say that we Shouldn't change the coach.
I completly understand that the players suck, they play without heart, that Secco is an idiot...etc.
But lets just look at some facts first:
-Ranieri had a much weaker team. He lost 6 games in all of our Serie A matches. We've already lost 7.
-We've been beaten by teams that are BY FACT much weaker than us in every single position. Name me ONE Chievo player who is better than ONE Juve player. There are non. Which means that with or without a manager we should easily beat them. the fact that we ddin't means there is no tactical awareness WHATSOEVER, which goes back to the manager.
So the fact is we HAVE to blame the manager.
We are out of the champions league, we'll be fifth place tonight, and we have been humiliated over 5 times.. All things that didn't occur under a terrible manager, Ranieri, who most of you wanted out right away. A manager who did MUCH better with a MUCH worse team.
And then to anoither point.
This manager has failed to use a single formation.
It is managerial basics that players actuallly need time to adapt to a formation. This manager changes the formation everytime we lose a match.
How is that even possible?? At least Ranieri had one and stuck to it through thick and thin.
And the ONE formation that works.. he drops.. and why? No one knows.
Our best, most influential player on the field, Giovinco barely gets a chance, while Marchisio who is actually a central Midfielder gets brutally thrown on the left to do Giovinco's job. WHY THE HELL?
We have the Italy's best winger and we don't play him.. is he BLIND?
And Amauri... who hasn't scored for months and months and yet gets chosen over Immobile time and time again.
And then we should come to Ferrara's transfer strategy.
Yes, I know, Secco makes the decisions.
But Ferrara actually stated in an interview concerning the January transfer window that we are covered at the back and we don't need any more reiforcements in that department. Is he serious? Is that what he calls a covered backline??
We have eight defenders.. HA HA HA.
So.. the fact is we NEED a new managr. Not even someone like Hiddink. but someone who at least knows the basics of management.
Yes, we do have a bad team. but not a terrible team.
We have the world's best goalkeeper, the world's best defender, a starting Brazilian Defensive Midfielder, the Bundesliga's best player, one of Italy's two biggest prospects in Giovinco and Marchisio, and Juve's alltime best striker.
We should beat Chievo with those six players blindfolded.
Don't be blinded by your love for Ferrara.
Welcome and good post.the one thing that baffles me is that Ranieri supposedly had a much better team. how come? there have been no improvement from any of our players, none of them have improved their game, none (not that Ciro shouldn't be blamed about that). but the awfulness of our current brazilian trio doesn't make up for Nedved running his heart out or Del Piero and Amauri single-handedly winning us numerous games at the same point of last season. i'd gladly watch Nedved playing another season and have those millions in Juve's wallet instead of having to watch a big dumb brazilian, who clearly lacks any intelligence whatsoever, making amateur mistakes time after time, game after game.
Ferrara: 'Tell me if I'm the problem'
Sunday 17 January, 2010
Juventus boss Ciro Ferrara is refusing to resign, but admits “if the Coach is the problem then the club will tell me.”
The Bianconeri plummeted out of the top three after today's 1-0 defeat at Chievo and many wonder how long he'll continue to stay on the bench.
“I try to analyse the situation and every aspect of it. The lads are downhearted when the results do not arrive, that is only to be expected,” Ferrara told Sky Italia television.
“I cannot know how our directors evaluate the squad, Coach and club. Everyone needs to examine every option and if they consider the Coach to be the problem, then I'm sure they'll come and tell me.
“There have been talks of course over the season, but no, I have never directly been told that I am a problem.
“To anyone who is used to seeing Juventus win, of course it will seem very strange. I am convinced the team has quality and must find out why at the moment they cannot express those qualities.
“If the problem is the Coach who cannot get the best out of his players, then I would clearly try to take responsibility for my errors. The club will evaluate and make a judgement.
“I'm trying to find the solution, it's true that seven defeats are unusual for Juventus, but with the players at my disposal I aim to improve and give them more self-belief.”
If Napoli beat Palermo this evening, then Juve will be knocked out of the Champions League spots.
“I still believe, absolutely. Despite a truly difficult period that even I would never have expected, I firmly believe in this Juventus. I realise that's difficult to say in front of the cameras and the fans, but I won't give in.
“In all honesty, this is a negative period and I don't want to find alibis or excuses, even if we have some important absentees.
“I had a small squad at my disposal today, but they tried to give their best. It's true we conceded the goal and did not react very well, though in the second half we pinned Chievo back.
“There were few scoring opportunities even when we threw on another striker. Certainly playing a game like this on a frozen pitch is not worthy of Serie A either, although of course the field was the same for Chievo too.
“There are some players who aren't in great shape, but I have few options to choose from. Some might need a rest, but we cannot afford it right now.”
Sunday 17 January, 2010
Juventus boss Ciro Ferrara is refusing to resign, but admits “if the Coach is the problem then the club will tell me.”
The Bianconeri plummeted out of the top three after today's 1-0 defeat at Chievo and many wonder how long he'll continue to stay on the bench.
“I try to analyse the situation and every aspect of it. The lads are downhearted when the results do not arrive, that is only to be expected,” Ferrara told Sky Italia television.
“I cannot know how our directors evaluate the squad, Coach and club. Everyone needs to examine every option and if they consider the Coach to be the problem, then I'm sure they'll come and tell me.
“There have been talks of course over the season, but no, I have never directly been told that I am a problem.
“To anyone who is used to seeing Juventus win, of course it will seem very strange. I am convinced the team has quality and must find out why at the moment they cannot express those qualities.
“If the problem is the Coach who cannot get the best out of his players, then I would clearly try to take responsibility for my errors. The club will evaluate and make a judgement.
“I'm trying to find the solution, it's true that seven defeats are unusual for Juventus, but with the players at my disposal I aim to improve and give them more self-belief.”
If Napoli beat Palermo this evening, then Juve will be knocked out of the Champions League spots.
“I still believe, absolutely. Despite a truly difficult period that even I would never have expected, I firmly believe in this Juventus. I realise that's difficult to say in front of the cameras and the fans, but I won't give in.
“In all honesty, this is a negative period and I don't want to find alibis or excuses, even if we have some important absentees.
“I had a small squad at my disposal today, but they tried to give their best. It's true we conceded the goal and did not react very well, though in the second half we pinned Chievo back.
“There were few scoring opportunities even when we threw on another striker. Certainly playing a game like this on a frozen pitch is not worthy of Serie A either, although of course the field was the same for Chievo too.
“There are some players who aren't in great shape, but I have few options to choose from. Some might need a rest, but we cannot afford it right now.”