[Champions League] JUVENTUS 0-2 Bayern München (April 10, 2013) (1 Viewer)
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Well, I thought that was another game where the limitations of 3-5-2 were exposed.
Early on, Juve tried to press and force a tempo. That led to them being caught three-on-three when they gave the ball away.
As Bayern settled and pushed Juve back a bit, Juve had something more like a back five and that meant that they couldn't get enough bodies high enough up the pitch to put enough pressure on Bayern to give themselves a chance of winning the ball back.
You could see Juve frantically shuffling back and fore to try and get some sort of balance between a back three and a back five, but that's not an easy move to pull off. Shuffling back and fore also always leaves a moment where you are going to be exposed (as the wing-back steps forward to confront the opposition full-back and the centre-back moves out towards the winger) as neither player is really marked and a good team is going to take advantage of that.
Having a better forward (or forwards) might help a little by scaring the opposition enough to always keep a full-back deep and narrow to avoid defendind two centre-backs against two strikers, but I'm not sure that would make enough of a different to really make 3-5-2 a good option in Europe at the moment.
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Still, at this point, you would have to say Juve's CL campaign was a success.
They got out of a tough group and were only knocked out when they came up against a top side. Whether losing to a top side comes in the first knockout round or the final is sort of beside the point as far as I'm concerned.
Not that it's a measure I like to use, but they also surpassed their budgetary aims for the CL, as they had, I believe, only factored in progressing from the group stage and losing in the first round.
Of course, just how much of success the campaign has been will only truly be known once we see what lessons Juve have learned from this year and how they go about tackling the competition in future years.
Early on, Juve tried to press and force a tempo. That led to them being caught three-on-three when they gave the ball away.
As Bayern settled and pushed Juve back a bit, Juve had something more like a back five and that meant that they couldn't get enough bodies high enough up the pitch to put enough pressure on Bayern to give themselves a chance of winning the ball back.
You could see Juve frantically shuffling back and fore to try and get some sort of balance between a back three and a back five, but that's not an easy move to pull off. Shuffling back and fore also always leaves a moment where you are going to be exposed (as the wing-back steps forward to confront the opposition full-back and the centre-back moves out towards the winger) as neither player is really marked and a good team is going to take advantage of that.
Having a better forward (or forwards) might help a little by scaring the opposition enough to always keep a full-back deep and narrow to avoid defendind two centre-backs against two strikers, but I'm not sure that would make enough of a different to really make 3-5-2 a good option in Europe at the moment.
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Still, at this point, you would have to say Juve's CL campaign was a success.
They got out of a tough group and were only knocked out when they came up against a top side. Whether losing to a top side comes in the first knockout round or the final is sort of beside the point as far as I'm concerned.
Not that it's a measure I like to use, but they also surpassed their budgetary aims for the CL, as they had, I believe, only factored in progressing from the group stage and losing in the first round.
Of course, just how much of success the campaign has been will only truly be known once we see what lessons Juve have learned from this year and how they go about tackling the competition in future years.
Glad someone said it. I mean we could've been paired with Malaga or Galatasaray for the Quarters. We were shown our limits and we all knew that there were better teams in this competition. The key thing is to keep qualifying and keep improving. Two years into the Conte project I'd say that we're doing very very well.
Over both the legs, I thought Muller exposed us the most because we play Pirlo instead of/without a defensive mid. Tactically we don't have a plan for the opponent's centre attacking midfielder, Muller went to support both the wings wherever the attack was coming from and was there free to shoot twice in the second leg and atleast once in the first leg to Madzukic's layoffs.
In summary, we got owned and hard, on all levels and on all fronts.
This campaign has been definitely a big success IMO, at least in comparison to how we were 2 years ago...
We have now some good motnhs to prepare for next season. Yeah, they caught us with our panths down, hardcore... but our improvement will really be measured by not letting top teams stomp us like this again.
Next year, we need to prepare and learn from this... because if tat doesnt happen, all this will be for naught.
This campaign has been definitely a big success IMO, at least in comparison to how we were 2 years ago...
We have now some good motnhs to prepare for next season. Yeah, they caught us with our panths down, hardcore... but our improvement will really be measured by not letting top teams stomp us like this again.
Next year, we need to prepare and learn from this... because if tat doesnt happen, all this will be for naught.
Is it just me or was that freekick that lead to their first goal, nonexistent?
Man-sukic is one big fag. Glad he's suspended.
Man-sukic is one big fag. Glad he's suspended.
It was a great match and I hope conte learned a lesson an in the next champions I hope juve will be much better than this juve
funny how quickly you forget what ribery did to Vidal in the first leg, he got away with a red card then, yet Vidal and Licht received soft yellow cards, so as it goes mandzukic' suspension goes down to karma
chiellini a good actor? fucking hell what was robben doing for most of last night? diving little shit
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chiellini a good actor? fucking hell what was robben doing for most of last night? diving little shit
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