[Champions League] Chelsea 1-0 JUVENTUS (02/25/09) (21 Viewers)

[Cronios]

Chelsea were confident of their defense, when the result was even, we couldnt even make it to the middle, later on, we couldnt even change the ball more than 2-3 times, without losing it!
They were caution or polite, not to finish us off then.
They took no risks and preferred to get away with the clean sheet to ensure qualification!
They could surely score more goals, but they wouldnt risk of conceding one...

 

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[Bjerknes]

The problem is though, now WE have to take the initiative. We have to score. If we're too worried about defending and the 70th minute comes along with a scoreboard of 0-0, it will be just like the other matches.

 

[Enoran]

The game show how reactive a team Juve is. Juz like the match against Samp, the team finds composure after going 1 goal down.

If the team has the mentality that they start with a 1 goal deposit for every match, Juventus could have been in a better position in the league.

 

[cyril]

What is so hard to understand here?

Only 50% of the road has been crossed, the other 50% will be in two weeks time in our garden to cross.

They have scored 1 goal. Fair enough. They defended better fair enough. But lets at least wait for the 2nd leg and see what we will be able or capable of doing playing home. And If Chelsea can play as good as we played away.

The chances are still 50-50 no matter how you see it. Evey single team is expected to perform better playing home infront of their crowds. The key is, how good can you perform good. We have seen the Chelsea part, now it's their turn to see ours.

If we fix our defense then it's all in our hands. Lets be optimistic, at least for once and have faith in this team. Nothing is lost, another 90min will be played in Turin and it's "us" the deciders whether to qualify or not, not Chelsea.

That's the spirit, I fully agree.

 

[Nicholas]

shut up you muppet, i think it's a disgrace our squad is so poor, but at least i'm intelligent enough to realise that the team is crap. Your so blind that you don't realise that were not good and then bitch because we dont beat chelsea at stamford bridge. 5 years down the line we need to be winning serie a and competing for the CL, RIGHT NOW we're not good enough to do that, so its just plain stupid to think we are

How can you say the squad isent good enough?.

Trez,Amauri and Del Piero=Shit now?.

Sissoko,Camo and Tiago=Shit?

Chiellini=Shit?

Buffon=Shit?

By my calculations 8 of our starting 11 are very good players.

The team isen't crap or we would'nt have won the Champions League group and would'nt be second in Serie A. We had the chance to overtake Inter at the top of 'A' and Ranieri chocked that is not a winners mentality,so please go re-assess your statements fool.

 

[Snoop]

Both teams completely canceled eachother after Drogba's goal.
I'm talking about the first half because i just finished watching it. Chelsea weren't faster and they certainly didn't control the match.
Now i'll watch the second half, but apart from the first 10-15 minutes, the first half was absolutely equal.

I don't think Chelsea defended the result from minute 10. It's not true. No serious team does that so early. They didn't sit back and wait for counters.
The truth is, we woke up and we made it harder for them.

He started sitting back and counter attacks in the second half.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Even though I'm for that formation guus could very well be expecting it especially after the 4-3-3 we used at the end.
Though I think if we play poulsen instead of momo we will have a better chance as he is much less clumsy and would really give ballack some fight.

i think ill prefer sisoko and poulson together to battle it out in the centre of the park , marchisio doesnt quite have the muscle and hopefully a re-energised sissoko we could begin dominating the middle and start to stretch them a little more. obviously as time goes on we can the see where we stand and make readjustments. But poulsons cl experience is vital here if he gets his form back to how it was in his schalke days, chelsea will begin to grab a few sweats.

 

[Luca]

Sissoko will need to play because we will be attacking and pace will be essential to stop Chelsea scoring on the counter.

I suppose so. Even nedved was operating as a DM at times, because of their speed. I have to say he has really impressed me today with his running, he's been our most consistent performers in the last few matches.

 

[juvechampions]

at this tiime of season don't criticize the players . they now play for juve and that's we have . the board know what the team need but for summer. now is chelski time and the players we have didn't give the 100% in the first game . hope and boost them to do it in turin and we can do it in the second leg to get ckelsi out

 

[sateeh]

I don't think so. I think it was equal, but even if it was the case i'm not angry because we played away to Chelsea. Not Palermo, Atalanta or Chievo.

I think the misunderstandings here have a lot to do with the expectations. Maybe i sound satisfied because i expected much worse performance while you on the other hand probably expected better performance.

That is the main point in all these arguments going around and people really unhappy about many things with the team, performances, results and even the policies.

We have people who expect us to play like Barcelona and Arsenal, others just want better results while other people want different policies with our player etc..

Back to the game.

We didn't play a bad game at all. I wasn't as angry as I was after the games against Udinese and Calgiari. We were playing a top notch team that is having a burst with their new coach. You have to take those things into consideration, we were playing last year's finalists away. Yet still we dominated periods of the game and had a couple of decent chances while they had one clear cut chance.

The disappointing thing for is that i thought we were more clinical infront of than this.We usually get one or two half chances and take them but that wans't the case tonight.

Was impressed by Mellberg, he kept whoever was there on the right in his back pocket all night and won everything in the air on that side.

We still have a very good chance of going through. We will be playing at home and chelsea will be over their Euphoria of Hiddink, so we'll see how they play without that extra motivation.

I will put my bid in to start Marchisio if he is fit as he will add more dynamism, movement, and a bit of physical approach to the midfield.

 

[Azzurri7]

4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.

I strongly disagree.

Playing 4-4-2 in the 2nd leg will only allow them to attack us more no matter how you look at it. 4-3-3 is attacking them before they do.

Playing 4-3-3 is the best option and the best formation Ranieri can go for. Why...


1- We will start the game by attacking them, and we better use our chances wisely, which is why 4-3-3 makes much more sense
2- Playing 4-4-2 will tire our forwards more
3- We might need more than a goal in the first half.
4- It's easier when you lead to change your tactics from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 IMHO.


This is how we should start in the 2nd leg


Buffon

Mellberg - Legro - Chiellini - Molinaro

Marchionni - Sissoko - Marchisio

Amauri - Trezeguet - Del Piero



If Camoranesi is fit, should be ahead of Marco of course.

The three midfielders [Marchionni - Sissoko - Marchisio] Got stamina and are fast speciall Marchisio and Marchionni, therefore it will be an advantage for us.

 

[JCK]

You might not agree on starting with Trez, and I understand that very good (because of Amauri's better physically and defensively maybe too), but at least we agree that he should have come in much earlier. I would even bring him at the start of second half, because 1-0 away is very very hard result for return match, if it was 2-1 it was much better.

If we concede a goal in Torino, we will be Dooooooomed like my man Cronios says

I also agree that conceding in Torino will be deadly.

Red mentioned something about the formation that instead of a 4-3-3 we should play a 4-3-1-2 and guess what, I am willing to give Alex another chance on being that 1.

Buffon
Mellberg Legrottaglie Chiellini Molinaro
Poulsen Marchisio Sissoko
Del Piero (C)
Trezeguet Amauri​

In this way we have three deadly players up front who can score any time and we have a solid midfield that will help our cause (keeping a clean sheet) more.

 

[cyril]

Please, the squad is nowhere near good enough. We have 1 winger in camo who is always injured, his back up is a retard. We haven't got a good fullback, and aside from chiellini we dont have a defender of internation pedigree, legro is good but he's not outstanding.

Also our central midfield is woeful bar sissoko. Tiago, Poulsen, an always injured Zanetti, and a young marchisio are not good enoguh for CL level. Nedved is past it and giovinco is not the answer to all of these problems.

So in summary we have 1 WC midfielder, 1 WC Defender, a WC keeper and arguably 3 WC strikers. How in any way is this a team good enoguh to beat Chelsea? A team that has 2 WC strikers, 4 WC midfielders, 4 WC defenders and a WC keeper

Your so blind and convinced that our team is good enough you should apply to sit on the juventus board, with the other imbeciles who dont realise our shortcomings

You make seem as if chelsea blew past us today. We had a good enough game, in the second half we were better. Please stop rating players on their invidual talent its a team game, I dont care if a team is made out of 11 WC player. We certainly dont have the best of teams, but we can beat chelsea.

 

[juvechampions]

I also agree that conceding in Torino will be deadly.

Red mentioned something about the formation that instead of a 4-3-3 we should play a 4-3-1-2 and guess what, I am willing to give Alex another chance on being that 1.

Buffon
Mellberg Legrottaglie Chiellini Molinaro
Poulsen Marchisio Sissoko
Del Piero (C)
Trezeguet Amauri​

In this way we have three deadly players up front who can score any time and we have a solid midfield that will help our cause (keeping a clean sheet) more.

AGGREE 100%

 

[Azzurri7]

I also agree that conceding in Torino will be deadly.

Red mentioned something about the formation that instead of a 4-3-3 we should play a 4-3-1-2 and guess what, I am willing to give Alex another chance on being that 1.

Buffon
Mellberg Legrottaglie Chiellini Molinaro
Poulsen Marchisio Sissoko
Del Piero (C)
Trezeguet Amauri​

In this way we have three deadly players up front who can score any time and we have a solid midfield that will help our cause (keeping a clean sheet) more.

Actually Ale has been very good playing in that position this season.

 

[Luca]

The problem is though, now WE have to take the initiative. We have to score. If we're too worried about defending and the 70th minute comes along with a scoreboard of 0-0, it will be just like the other matches.

100% though the problem is we'll start brightly then fade away before being engulfed in a midfield battle and BAM! Before you know it 75 mind has gone.
We should blitz at the start but then use our home advantage to build up play and set camp in their half we can pressure them into a goal. The only thing I'm afaid of is if we turn to that horrible long ball.

 

[JCK]

That is the main point in all these arguments going around and people really unhappy about many things with the team, performances, results and even the policies.

We have people who expect us to play like Barcelona and Arsenal, others just want better results while other people want different policies with our player etc..

Back to the game.

We didn't play a bad game at all. I wasn't as angry as I was after the games against Udinese and Calgiari. We were playing a top notch team that is having a burst with their new coach. You have to take those things into consideration, we were playing last year's finalists away. Yet still we dominated periods of the game and had a couple of decent chances while they had one clear cut chance.

The disappointing thing for is that i thought we were more clinical infront of than this.We usually get one or two half chances and take them but that wans't the case tonight.

Was impressed by Mellberg, he kept whoever was there on the right in his back pocket all night and won everything in the air on that side.

We still have a very good chance of going through. We will be playing at home and chelsea will be over their Euphoria of Hiddink, so we'll see how they play without that extra motivation.

I will put my bid in to start Marchisio if he is fit as he will add more dynamism, movement, and a bit of physical approach to the midfield.

I agree about Mellberg. I have been watching Chelsea a lot lately, ever since the draw and I have seen how dangerous Anelka has been. Anelka threatened us only when Malouda came in and Anelka moved to the right side.

 

[Mike-e-y]

How can you say the squad isent good enough?.

Trez,Amauri and Del Piero=Shit now?.

Sissoko,Camo and Tiago=Shit?

Chiellini=Shit?

Buffon=Shit?

By my calculations 8 of our starting 11 are very good players.

The team isen't crap or we would'nt have won the Champions League group and would'nt be second in Serie A. We had the chance to overtake Inter at the top of 'A' and Ranieri chocked that is not a winners mentality,so please go re-assess your statements fool.

If you could read i said we had 3 WC strikers, so your first statement is cancelled.

Camo is WC but he's injured all the time, so he's only half a player, sissoko is WC but only at destrying, he offeres NOTHING going forward. Tiago is shit

I said 1 WC defeder, molinaro=shit, grygera=shit, mellberg=average, legro=good

I said 1 WC keeper. This is by no means good enough for a team wanting to win a champions league medal, especially when its up against chelsea.

And come on, we're only 2nd in Serie A because the teams around us are equally as poor, milan are pensioners and roma are inconsistant and chokers. We never stood a chance of winning the Serie A crown because we havent got a player that can create anything, there is no point in having 3 WC strikers if they never get the right balls

 

[Rollie]

4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.

I think you're probably right that we shouldn't start with a 4-3-3, but what happened to Ranieri's preseason Chameleon? I mean, surely we could have put Trez on a little earlier tonight and thrown the trident together for a little longer offensive push at the end. Ranieri was basically playing for the 1-0 loss in this one...

We only play with one formation, and I think that's definitely one of our primary shortcomings. We don't really play for matchups, where as Guus knew that we've struggled against the 4-3-3, so he changed things up for his side.

This tinkerman of ours doesn't tinker with the shape of our formation;every once in awhile he just likes to try things like De Ceglie at RM.

We need Giovinco's pace, and creativity in the lineup for the next game. Do you think it's necessary that someone call Ranieri to let him know that Seba doesn't HAVE to play on the left? The kids right foot dominant for Chrissakes. If Camo isn't ready, Seba should be playing on that side of our 4-4-2. Our strikers need some fucking service already.

 

[Luca]

I also agree that conceding in Torino will be deadly.

Red mentioned something about the formation that instead of a 4-3-3 we should play a 4-3-1-2 and guess what, I am willing to give Alex another chance on being that 1.

Buffon
Mellberg Legrottaglie Chiellini Molinaro
Poulsen Marchisio Sissoko
Del Piero (C)
Trezeguet Amauri​

In this way we have three deadly players up front who can score any time and we have a solid midfield that will help our cause (keeping a clean sheet) more.

Bang on a good mixture of steel passing ability and tactical sense in that midfield, we'd have to out fox them because we'd be lacking on speed.