[Champions League] Chelsea 1-0 JUVENTUS (02/25/09) (18 Viewers)

GrandePavel

Pavel The Czech Warrior
Aug 5, 2008
614
*SNIP* - Please don't quote the whole post just to bold one part - Graham.

Nedved: What can I say about him. Maybe the most distance covered by a player in both teams, yet I think he was the eldest on the pitch. Deserves all respect. Was close to give us the equalizer at the end of the game where we should have been awarded a corner kick. 7

:tup:
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I cannot say that i am satisfied, but this defeat was kind of... well, expected...
Chelsea is a far better team and chances where that they are going to outclass us. Everything is possible in football though...
Unfortunately the change of coach did not affected their teamwork enough, to deny the effects of their superior quality/skills.
We were outplayed in all the lines, Chelsea was controlling the game from the beginning, it was only a matter of time our weak defense would break and concede one...
And it happened with the usual way, a vertical pass that broke our off side trap. The dense defense with the overcrowded center has been been broken many times this way. It seems that someone studied our play and our weaknesses.
After Chelsea got what they wanted they fall ball confident that the job is done and betting that we are unable to score, hence even threaten them with an orthodox attack.

Unfortunately for us, it was proved out, they were right.
Chiellini's return wasnt enough too make us bulletproof in the back, as it is against lesser competition, our weak defense has been exposed and the whole europe has seen the Chelsea players abusing our...defenders...
Hopefully Secco did too!!
CR chose the best possible formation, he took absolutely no risks there!
He kept the balanced 1 DM+1 CM formula and luckily for us, old-Neddy wasnt tired enough, surprisingly, he didnt collapsed, but he did outrunned each and everyone of our field players and marked more kms than any body else!
Even the usual disaster, Marchionni wasnt half bad today.
But the extra smth, the sparkle wasnt there, the only man capable of offering this is Camo, maybe with a bit help of Tiago, but they were...disappointing.
I expected more from them, but the service to our forward line was totally absent.
IMO Chiellini and Camo were the players that could help us to close the gap and make that leap of quality, that we lacked the previous days, they were our best chance, but it wasnt their day...

Chelsea put the pressure on us and our average quality team, just couldnt handle it.
We lost it completely out there, we were unfocused, we couldnt cope with their tactical pace, we didnt know what to with the ball.
We couldnt even stick to the simple things, safe passes and clean interceptions.
Let alone tactical plans...


That level is way beyond our league, but its ok we werent supposed to be here at the first place.
We have to stick to our five decade plan and enjoy the CL experience, as a nearly promoted team. We have gained some valuable exp!
This result means we are already disqualified, Chelsea will easily score at least one goal in 90' and there is noway that we will score 3 back.
If it was a loss with a 2-1, we could still hope for a miracle, now we can only hope that we will not get an English team so early in the semis next year...
Even with more players like Poulsen, we cannot face them with this formation!
We would rather face more attacking minded teams, Chelsea and Pool can beat us any time, the reasons have been made clear since the Capello days...
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
I always thought Capello won back to back titles with ourselves guess I was wrong,I cannot believe you defend Ranieri when he truly is a looser.
HAHAHAHA, your comparing Capello's team to the one now? And remember or not capello won trophys with an even more rigid 4-4-2 system than ranieri!!!

And dont tell me i'm defending Ranieri, i'm far from his biggest fan, but that doesn't mean he is to blame for global warming for christs sake.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
38,737
Please, the squad is nowhere near good enough. We have 1 winger in camo who is always injured, his back up is a retard. We haven't got a good fullback, and aside from chiellini we dont have a defender of internation pedigree, legro is good but he's not outstanding.

Also our central midfield is woeful bar sissoko. Tiago, Poulsen, an always injured Zanetti, and a young marchisio are not good enoguh for CL level. Nedved is past it and giovinco is not the answer to all of these problems.

So in summary we have 1 WC midfielder, 1 WC Defender, a WC keeper and arguably 3 WC strikers. How in any way is this a team good enoguh to beat Chelsea? A team that has 2 WC strikers, 4 WC midfielders, 4 WC defenders and a WC keeper

Your so blind and convinced that our team is good enough you should apply to sit on the juventus board, with the other imbeciles who dont realise our shortcomings
Your one of these fans who like the rest, 5 years down the line will still be saying we are re-building.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,645
It will be tough but Roma did beat them 3:1 after losing 0:1 in London. Yeah, group stages are different, you play for points, you don't care about the aggregate, but it still says that Chelsea are beatable by 2 goals difference.

FORZA JUVE
I saw that game. And i would say everything what had to go right, went right for Roma. The early goal helped a lot. And Scolari also had an influence :lol:

But i wouldnt be that optimistic about scoring many, now they have a new manager who actually knows what he wants to do.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
:lol:

Should I have this too :p




Well I told you before the match, so yes :p Trez instead of Amauri and Marchisio instead of Tiago, remember?

But he should have been brought much earlier, you can't deny that!
I don't agree on benching Amauri but I agree Trezeguet should have been brought in when we had most of the possession. Around the 70th minute. By the time he came in, the game had turned into basketball style.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
38,737
4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.
If the 4-4-2 is implicated again,Nedved must sit out and allow some pace on the wings,Bosingwa had so much joy down the right thats because Nedved cuts in all the time and allows space down the flank,at least with Gio you have the added extra that he will keep Bosingwa on the back foot.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,751
4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.
Even though I'm for that formation guus could very well be expecting it especially after the 4-3-3 we used at the end.
Though I think if we play poulsen instead of momo we will have a better chance as he is much less clumsy and would really give ballack some fight.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.
I second that! We have to play more defensive (that 4-3-3), we should score a goal and sit back, just like the last Barcelona match. Hiddink didn't play defensive for nothing, he could have played more offensive and score the second, but he could risk conceding a goal that way, and it wasn't going to be this good for him now if he did that. He got a great result, and I am sure he will play to score a goal at least in Torino..
 

juvechampions

Junior Member
Feb 27, 2006
331
with alex behind amauri and trez their 4 back and midfield will always stay back and with their dm staying back their midfield will be isolated and will not hit us in the counter as much. At least we will score one goal either from alex long shots or from the two in front.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,025
Both teams completely canceled eachother after Drogba's goal.
I'm talking about the first half because i just finished watching it. Chelsea weren't faster and they certainly didn't control the match.
Now i'll watch the second half, but apart from the first 10-15 minutes, the first half was absolutely equal.

I don't think Chelsea defended the result from minute 10. It's not true. No serious team does that so early. They didn't sit back and wait for counters.
The truth is, we woke up and we made it harder for them.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,932
4-3-3 in the second match is the way to lose the tie.
Call me crazy but a formation that i would love to try against chelsea would be a 5-3-2 that flips to a 3-5-2 alternately. however we just dont have the sort of players for ranieri to switch formations around i think we will continue with a 4-4-2 in the second leg and optionally increasing the numbers up front towards the end... quite symmetrical to what happened today.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
Your one of these fans who like the rest, 5 years down the line will still be saying we are re-building.
shut up you muppet, i think it's a disgrace our squad is so poor, but at least i'm intelligent enough to realise that the team is crap. Your so blind that you don't realise that were not good and then bitch because we dont beat chelsea at stamford bridge. 5 years down the line we need to be winning serie a and competing for the CL, RIGHT NOW we're not good enough to do that, so its just plain stupid to think we are
 

Red

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Moderator
Nov 26, 2006
47,024
Though I think if we play poulsen instead of momo we will have a better chance as he is much less clumsy and would really give ballack some fight.
Sissoko will need to play because we will be attacking and pace will be essential to stop Chelsea scoring on the counter.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
Even though I'm for that formation guus could very well be expecting it especially after the 4-3-3 we used at the end.
Though I think if we play poulsen instead of momo we will have a better chance as he is much less clumsy and would really give ballack some fight.
I agree, we should field Poulsen-Sissoko in the return game. If De Ceglie is back I'd play him on the right wing instead of Marchionni also.

Both teams completely canceled eachother after Drogba's goal.
I'm talking about the first half because i just finished watching it. Chelsea weren't faster and they certainly didn't control the match.
Now i'll watch the second half, but apart from the first 10-15 minutes, the first half was absolutely equal.

I don't think Chelsea defended the result from minute 10. It's not true. No serious team does that so early. They didn't sit back and wait for counters.
The truth is, we woke up and we made it harder for them.
100%
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
I don't agree on benching Amauri but I agree Trezeguet should have been brought in when we had most of the possession. Around the 70th minute. By the time he came in, the game had turned into basketball style.
You might not agree on starting with Trez, and I understand that very good (because of Amauri's better physically and defensively maybe too), but at least we agree that he should have come in much earlier. I would even bring him at the start of second half, because 1-0 away is very very hard result for return match, if it was 2-1 it was much better.

If we concede a goal in Torino, we will be Dooooooomed like my man Cronios says :D
 

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