Porsche lost both contracts to Henschel, as their designs for both Tiger (P) and Tiger II later ended up being too heavy and impractical, so Porsche's only worthwhile contribution is the famous Ferdinand
Yeah, shame is a strong word. And usually not much good comes from being ashamed. Especially because pretty much no one alive today played any significant part in WWII.
What if it's 2050, should the son of @Bjerknes be ashamed of his father's role as a prison guard in the Latino death camps during the Trumpian War between 2025-2030?
Im not saying as a german today u should wake up every morning and feel ashamed. Im talking from historical context. Massive elephant in the room till WW II ended. Its a difficult topic to deal with i would think. No?
Yeah, no doubt. What i mean though is, that if your company was asked to work with/for the regime, you knew what kind of consequences you and your company was going to face if you were to turn them down. So some played along even though they were against the nazis, cause they feared for their own lifes, some of course were nazis themselves, and some just cared for the money. But working for them at some point doesn't automatically make you a nazi.
Porsche lost both contracts to Henschel, as their designs for both Tiger (P) and Tiger II later ended up being too heavy and impractical, so Porsche's only worthwhile contribution is the famous Ferdinand
Yeah, no doubt. What i mean though is, that if your company was asked to work with/for the regime, you knew what kind of consequences you and your company was going to face if you were to turn them down. So some played along even though they were against the nazis, cause they feared for their own lifes, some of course were nazis themselves, and some just cared for the money. But working for them at some point doesn't automatically make you a nazi.
Yes but we were talking about Bayernfan here. Not some porsche factory worker who was forced. Bayernfan wasnt forced. Presumable. Who knows. Maybe he had a bad stepdad.
Dude people take pride in things their ancestors or countrymen of the past did all the time without personally being alive or part of it. You know like being proud of Juventus for example .
You can very legitimately feel ashamed of parts of your history just as much as you can feel pride. I know it doesnt make sense but its how identity works on us.
Dude people take pride in things their ancestors or countrymen of the past did all the time without personally being alive or part of it. You know like being proud of Juventus for example .
You can very legitimately feel ashamed of parts of your history just as much as you can feel pride. I know it doesnt make sense but its how identity works on us.
Dude people take pride in things their ancestors or countrymen of the past did all the time without personally being alive or part of it. You know like being proud of Juventus for example .
You can very legitimately feel ashamed of parts of your history just as much as you can feel pride. I know it doesnt make sense but its how identity works on us.
Yes but we were talking about Bayernfan here. Not some porsche factory worker who was forced. Bayernfan wasnt forced. Presumable. Who knows. Maybe he had a bad stepdad.