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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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I just want everyone to know, we aren't winning the CL this year. Please don't get your hopes up. I also hope we avoid ATM in the group phase.
ATM are not first seed?

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I was thinking we could've been among the favourites, but that's when we had Morata and Pogba. Now I don't really know what to think of this team.
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We will be better than before just not by the degree that we would have been had we kept Pogba. Our pattern is to take two steps forward in improving the team and then one step backward. But we are nevertheless progressing as a club. We signed Dybala and Mandzu then lost Tevez and llorente. We signed khedira and then lost vidal and pirlo. We signed Pjanic then lost Pogba and so on. But we improve overall because we sign more good players than we let go.

Ideally we would have kept Tevez and Vidal last season or kept Pogba and Morata this season in addition to the incoming transfers but thats life. As long as we are progressing I am more than happy. The only threat is if EPL teams take a sudden leap in quality. They all brought in great coaches who are likely to get the most off their squads and they have all become insanely rich all of a sudden.

We need to progress atleast at the same pace as those behind us (EPL teams) and faster than those infront of us (Bayern, Madrid, Barca). It would suck if EPL teams catch up to us over the next 2 years.
 

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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Nope. Real, Barca, Juventus, Bayern, Leicester, PSG, Benfica, and CSKA are the top seeds.
Such an unfair system that a team that got the better of Barca, Juve, and Bayern in the last couple of years and have reached two finals in the last 3 narrowly losing both, gets to be seeded lower than everyone they overcame.
 

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Feb 9, 2013
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I was thinking we could've been among the favourites, but that's when we had Morata and Pogba. Now I don't really know what to think of this team.
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Well... As far as production goes Pogba has been a very poor CL performer. Pjanic has been far better.

Pogba - 29 matches - 2 goals - 5 assists

Pjanjic - 34 matches - 7 goals - 5 assists

I'd say we shall be fine. :p
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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Such an unfair system that a team that got the better of Barca, Juve, and Bayern in the last couple of years and have reached two finals in the last 3 narrowly losing both, gets to be seeded lower than everyone they overcame.
The previous seeding system was even more unfair, we could get barca, leicester and psg in one group.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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I hope we learned our lesson from last season's campaign and aim to top the group and not drop points against the weaker teams.
i´m pretty sure that was our aim last year... don´t think max told morata to miss those open goals or hernanes to get sent off...
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Well... As far as production goes Pogba has been a very poor CL performer. Pjanic has been far better.

Pogba - 29 matches - 2 goals - 5 assists

Pjanjic - 34 matches - 7 goals - 5 assists

I'd say we shall be fine. :p
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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Didn't C.Ronaldo have poor numbers in the CL when he was 22/23. I wouldn't read too much into that.

I hope Pogba fails miserably in the CL now that he's with the Mancs, but I doubt that will happen.
 
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Such an unfair system that a team that got the better of Barca, Juve, and Bayern in the last couple of years and have reached two finals in the last 3 narrowly losing both, gets to be seeded lower than everyone they overcame.
This new system is far superior to the previous one. League winners and CL winner gets 1st pot thats more than fair.

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Were winning this guys
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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This new system is far superior to the previous one. League winners and CL winner gets 1st pot thats more than fair.

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Were winning this guys
:agree:

The qualifying system is also better and allows more actual champions and fewer 3rd/4th teams from rich leagues to get in. Platini done good there.
 
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