Cartoon anger is a misrepresentation (12 Viewers)

[mikhail]

I am not offended with that, but this could lead to missunderstanding and make members post things that are not nice here, which then lead for a ban.

BTW, I saw yesterday some other pics, I think they were also in your post (I could be wrong, not 100% sure). the other pics were much harder

I don't think it was me, but feel free to correct me. I only two sets of cartoons, an they're almost consecutive posts.

I'm quite happy to delete images any poster finds offensive, particularly on this subject.

From what I've seen, the Muslims on here are a bit more restrained than their more newsworthy counterparts. That's a really good thing, IMO, to find that out. It shows up the rioters for what they are.

 

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[Zlatan]

Dont make me ban the whole site in protest


Just kidding, I'm not even muslim

 

[Il Re]

Bosnia is a muslims country right zlatan?

 

[Wings]

I have seen glimpses of the cartoons on TV. I have seen them quickly flashed across the TV screens. I will not bother looking for them because to me it is irrelevant. The damage has already been done.
My questions are:-
- Is it necessary to test some freedoms however offensive they may be?
- What benefit has the Danish test had?
Observations:-
- Interesting standoff points have arisen ..
From the western perspective it's, 'How violent can they be?'
From the muslim perspective it's, 'How naive can they be?' or 'Is this deliberate?'
I do not condone any violence. There are surely better ways to voice your anger but I am 1 in billions. I feel anger towards the cartoonist, I feel anger towards the followup printouts & yes am positvely horrified by the way of the thinking of such cliques. I just hope the lessons learned will be wisely used.

 

[mikhail]

I have seen glimpses of the cartoons on TV. I have seen them quickly flashed across the TV screens. I will not bother looking for them because to me it is irrelevant. The damage has already been done.

Do you always take offense to things you haven't seen? Do you become offended because someone tells you to?

My questions are:-
- Is it necessary to test some freedoms however offensive they may be?
- What benefit has the Danish test had?

It is the crux of the matter, isn't it. I'm not entirely sure where I stand here. Should your beliefs be foisted on the Danes? Probably not. Should they have published cartoons they knew would offend? Probably not.

The argument that it's not satire doesn't wash with me though. The violent reaction has done more to reinforce negative steriotypes of Muslims in the west than all the cartoons in Denmark ever could. In a sense, the Danes made a point - they pointed out that some guy couldn't get anyone to illustrate his children's book about Mohammed because of fears of Islamic reprisal. They demonstrated that they were right. How is that right, that a man can't write a children's book without reprisal? :frown:

 

[Byrone]

Say the word and I'll delete it. But first, please ask yourself how a tan square or a small yellow piece of plastic, or a pineapple are offensive.

its not about the piece of plastic, using Mohammad's name & make images is considered blasphemis

 

[Wings]

Do you always take offense to things you haven't seen? Do you become offended because someone tells you to?

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that a prophet's caricature with a bomb on his head is offensive. A glimpse was enough. Am not offended on hearsay.

If the Dane's wanted to see a reaction to illustrations of the prophet in a children's book why didnt they draw illustrations of the prophet in a children's book context?

 

[Maresca]

I don't think it was me, but feel free to correct me. I only two sets of cartoons, an they're almost consecutive posts.

I'm quite happy to delete images any poster finds offensive, particularly on this subject.

From what I've seen, the Muslims on here are a bit more restrained than their more newsworthy counterparts. That's a really good thing, IMO, to find that out. It shows up the rioters for what they are.

This is exactly what I am trying to tell the people here. The Image, which some idiots nowdays have given for Islam is simply wrong, and may be there are some here(not pointing to anyone special), that could destroy our objective and respectful disscusion here. I am also very proud that the disscussion in this thread has been so respecful.

 

[mikhail]

I am also very proud that the disscussion in this thread has been so respecful.

 

[Enron]

Someone said earlier that Turkey has the fastest growing economies in Europe. I just wanted to point out that India has the fastest growing economy in the World. I think it increased 2 billion last year or something. Ill look up the official stats when I get out of class at 1200pm my time. My point is India is still one of the poorest countries in the world.

 

[Maresca]

Someone said earlier that Turkey has the fastest growing economies in Europe. I just wanted to point out that India has the fastest growing economy in the World. I think it increased 2 billion last year or something. Ill look up the official stats when I get out of class at 1200pm my time. My point is India is still one of the poorest countries in the world.

did you give me negrap

 

[loyada]

Materially Poor, Socially Rich

 

[Zlatan]

Bosnia is a muslims country right zlatan?

Not exclusivly Muslim, but predominantly, yes.


Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14% according to the CIA World Factbook.

 

[Enron]

did you give me negrap

Actually, I did not but Ill give you a + rep just cause.

 

[Eddy]

Not exclusivly Muslim, but predominantly, yes.


Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14% according to the CIA World Factbook.

Do you belive anything the CIA tells you?

 

[Enron]

Promised India Stats:
Here's my site:
http://economywatch.com/indianeconomy/indian-economy-overview.html

I was wrong India isn't number 1 but its economy is booming compared to what it once was. Yet it is still one of the poorest countries. I think its mostly due to population.

 

[Enron]

Do you belive anything the CIA tells you?

Only after a booster shot.

 

[Eddy]

Only after a booster shot.

right on

 

[Hambon]

Enron?? who said CIA....hehe

 

[Il Re]

Not exclusivly Muslim, but predominantly, yes.


Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14% according to the CIA World Factbook.

i read somewhere that zlatan (ibrahimovic that is) has a muslim father and a catholic mother so that would make sense since he's originally bosnian