Also Chiellini was in two finals, which of those should we have been widely expected to win?
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The Italy international will start in Juventus‘ defence in the Coppa Italia Final against Inter tomorrow. It is his last chance to win a trophy at the club. Chiellini has already won 19 cups in Turin and could make it 20 tomorrow.
“Actually, it would be 21,” he said at a press conference at the Stadio Olimpico attended by Football Italia.
“There is a rivalry, so why not fuel it with some old memories…”
Chiellini referred to the 2005-06 Scudetto won by Juventus, which was revoked and assigned to Inter following the Calciopoli scandal.
Chiellini’s contract expires in 2023, but he is expected to leave at the end of the season. Will he talk to Andrea Agnelli after tomorrow’s game in Rome?
“I wanted to wait for this final. I want to focus on football as long as there are some targets,” he said.
“I could have retired the day after winning the Euros. I may not have been here hadn’t VAR disallowed Austria’s goal [in the Round of 16]. Let’s live this game and then we’ll see.
“Juventus have great values, which I didn’t create, I’ve learned them,” he continued.
“When you arrived at Juventus, you understand what’s the difference with other clubs. Allegri has been to Milan and he can say it as well. I’ve learned Juventus’ mentality from Del Piero, Buffon, Pessotto, and Birindelli, who had learned from other legends in the past."
“Actually, it would be 21,” he said at a press conference at the Stadio Olimpico attended by Football Italia.
“There is a rivalry, so why not fuel it with some old memories…”
Chiellini referred to the 2005-06 Scudetto won by Juventus, which was revoked and assigned to Inter following the Calciopoli scandal.
Chiellini’s contract expires in 2023, but he is expected to leave at the end of the season. Will he talk to Andrea Agnelli after tomorrow’s game in Rome?
“I wanted to wait for this final. I want to focus on football as long as there are some targets,” he said.
“I could have retired the day after winning the Euros. I may not have been here hadn’t VAR disallowed Austria’s goal [in the Round of 16]. Let’s live this game and then we’ll see.
“Juventus have great values, which I didn’t create, I’ve learned them,” he continued.
“When you arrived at Juventus, you understand what’s the difference with other clubs. Allegri has been to Milan and he can say it as well. I’ve learned Juventus’ mentality from Del Piero, Buffon, Pessotto, and Birindelli, who had learned from other legends in the past."
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Ibrahimovic is most definitely a CL choker and so is R9, and so is Nedved yes (you don't get booked there, I don't care what anyone says, that wasn't bad luck, that was dumb).
I already clarified that there are general chokers and then there are a CL chokers. You guys are thinking like Juve fans and this logic of mine means that most of our beloved players have been chokers. But think like a neutral for a second. When evaluating players, not winning CL always comes up, ALWAYS. It's not nothing. Some international trophies will ease up the argument like Buffon's WC and Chiellini's EC, but no-CL will always come up when they are compared with other legends of their era (i.e. Neuer/Casillas, Ramos).
I already clarified that there are general chokers and then there are a CL chokers. You guys are thinking like Juve fans and this logic of mine means that most of our beloved players have been chokers. But think like a neutral for a second. When evaluating players, not winning CL always comes up, ALWAYS. It's not nothing. Some international trophies will ease up the argument like Buffon's WC and Chiellini's EC, but no-CL will always come up when they are compared with other legends of their era (i.e. Neuer/Casillas, Ramos).
i already understood the angle you are lookng at from and i feel that i already responded and given you another example why calling anyone choker in this competition is far from the truth when you take your time to actually look at details and circumstances.
And frankly , aside from a select few football fans(be it Juve fans or neutrals) as yourself who want to nick pick something in order to label them the way you are doing , there’s in fact hardly anybody that remembers any of those legends as supposed chokers of a specific competition, not even close, and in fact does not even get mentioned at all when their names come up because it’s irrelevant next to all the other amazing accolades that they’ve achieved.
Context does play a big part and given that we are talking first and foremost about a team sports it is indeed far from the truth calling any individual player a choker in a team game competition where most often than not they’ve represented an overall weaker team that also didn’t get any refereeing favoritism’s their way compared to those they were competing with and that eventually went on to win it at the time…
Yes, they did not win it, nobody is denying that, i’m sure they have their own regrets about missing out on it but from that to them being labeled or remembered as individual chokers for it it’s just factually wrong and out of place when you take everything else that i’ve stated above into consideration, which by the looks of it you obviously didn’t bother to.
And frankly , aside from a select few football fans(be it Juve fans or neutrals) as yourself who want to nick pick something in order to label them the way you are doing , there’s in fact hardly anybody that remembers any of those legends as supposed chokers of a specific competition, not even close, and in fact does not even get mentioned at all when their names come up because it’s irrelevant next to all the other amazing accolades that they’ve achieved.
Context does play a big part and given that we are talking first and foremost about a team sports it is indeed far from the truth calling any individual player a choker in a team game competition where most often than not they’ve represented an overall weaker team that also didn’t get any refereeing favoritism’s their way compared to those they were competing with and that eventually went on to win it at the time…
Yes, they did not win it, nobody is denying that, i’m sure they have their own regrets about missing out on it but from that to them being labeled or remembered as individual chokers for it it’s just factually wrong and out of place when you take everything else that i’ve stated above into consideration, which by the looks of it you obviously didn’t bother to.
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