Boring aren't we? in the transfer market (12 Viewers)

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
#41
++ [ originally posted by Holdon ] ++
Yes, we are a boring club, our players are boring, our performnances are boring, Capello is boring, even Moggi now bores me.
amen.. im so bored and this thread must be the mother of the transfer market forum.


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIING.
 

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BigIzz

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
1,088
#42
I don't see why this suprises anyone. Do you really expect Juve to go out and sign big names every year? They rarely do. Juve's first mission has always been to be financially responsible. This may not make the fans happy because it isn't very sexy but it does seem to work.
But still every year people expect Moggi to think he works for Real Madrid and buy this guy and that guy when its never going to happen.
 

Erkka

Senior Member
Mar 31, 2004
3,863
#43
but do you really think that we can get any success with this kind of team?! I don't, we need at least 2 really good transfers...
 

BigIzz

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
1,088
#44
Juve aren't going to go out and spend big money. They won't pay more for a player then they think he is worth. This is why they are one of the only Serie A squads that isn't now or wasn't millions in debt. It may not make for the best club next season, but I do think it is best for the team in the long term to be tight with the pocketbook.
 

Art^

StrikerMania Champ 2004
Jan 11, 2003
2,905
#45
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Put aside the fact that Juve's defence sucks and tell me, if you were a coach would you rather your transfer guru sign Dennis Rommedahl or Jonathan Zebina? :rolleyes:
:eek::shocked: :doh:

Zebina is more than a decent defender, he had a great season last season. So i dont know were all the hype comes from.

Please tell me wich qualitys Rommedahl has, except for his pace.
Camo is a better ball player than Rommedahl is, even though im not that impresses by camo.

As a winger, i find dribbling, passing and crossing the most important skills, wich Rommedahl doesnt posses. Zebina can both be played in central and on the right, he is tall, big, fast and strong.

Arent the choice obvious.

I really want to say that the danes haves great footballers, because im myself is a dane. But there only a few players i consider really good in the Danish NT, and thats Krøldrup, Claus Jensen og Poulsen (all 3 are reserves :groan:)
 
Mar 14, 2004
4,926
#46
++ [ originally posted by Art^ ] ++


:eek::shocked: :doh:

Zebina is more than a decent defender, he had a great season last season. So i dont know were all the hype comes from.

Please tell me wich qualitys Rommedahl has, except for his pace.
Camo is a better ball player than Rommedahl is, even though im not that impresses by camo.

As a winger, i find dribbling, passing and crossing the most important skills, wich Rommedahl doesnt posses. Zebina can both be played in central and on the right, he is tall, big, fast and strong.

Arent the choice obvious.
Quickness is the first thing that winger must have......Rommedahl is the same player like Gronkjaer and Gronkjaer is 300% better player than Camo. Camo is slow,lazy,weak but he posseses technique and thats about it.....
 

Art^

StrikerMania Champ 2004
Jan 11, 2003
2,905
#47
Rommedahl is not half as good as Grønkjær.

Grønkjær is probably better than Camo, but he is still not prooven in Serie A. Camo is lazy (omg i hate him for that), but he has shown his worth in many games.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,776
#48
++ [ originally posted by BigIzz ] ++
Juve aren't going to go out and spend big money. They won't pay more for a player then they think he is worth. This is why they are one of the only Serie A squads that isn't now or wasn't millions in debt. It may not make for the best club next season, but I do think it is best for the team in the long term to be tight with the pocketbook.
I absolutely agree. And if you look at AC Milan last year, they hardly signed any monster players and yet look at the results they got?

Kaka turned out to be compared with the all-time greats already, relegating Rui Costa to the bench. Pancaro and Cafu, who were considered too old and washed up to be that effective anymore, had excellent seasons and were in a good part responsible for some of Milan's tremendous success.

You sometimes can do a lot with smart, targeted trades that fall under the radar of the blockbuster deal (many of which turn out to be expensive exercises in over-billing and disappointment).
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#49
++ [ originally posted by Art^ ] ++


:eek::shocked: :doh:

Zebina is more than a decent defender, he had a great season last season. So i dont know were all the hype comes from.

Please tell me wich qualitys Rommedahl has, except for his pace.
Camo is a better ball player than Rommedahl is, even though im not that impresses by camo.

As a winger, i find dribbling, passing and crossing the most important skills, wich Rommedahl doesnt posses. Zebina can both be played in central and on the right, he is tall, big, fast and strong.

Arent the choice obvious.

I really want to say that the danes haves great footballers, because im myself is a dane. But there only a few players i consider really good in the Danish NT, and thats Krøldrup, Claus Jensen og Poulsen (all 3 are reserves :groan:)
Rommedahl isn't a class player, I know that, but personally I'd rather have him in my team than Zebina.

Zebina was a member of an excellent Roma defence, but individually he wasn't that brilliant, actually he was far from it. He's a decent performer with a few impressive qualities, but what is the most notable quality that he will add to this Juve squad? Apart from youth it's pace, and Rommedahl has that in abundance. I'm not saying that I would like to see Rommedahl in black and white next season because I wouldn't, but Zebina? Please. If you want a back-up defender who can offer a bit of pace and versatility, Zebina's your man simply because he's young and free, but we conceded 50+ goals in Serie A last season FFS and Zebina isn't going to fix that problem.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
#50
im not particulary impressed the signings thus far, but the way i see it is that they have been free, and with the money running a lil low this summer, its important to change the team in this manner.

zebina, most likely bonera and even kapo are not key players for capello. they will be back ups. the likes of montero, iuliano, ferrara and even pessotto will most likely not be there next season under capello. so we do need back ups as well as quality players.

and the summer transfer has barely started.

we have been linked to quality players and we have been linked to overrated or older players who wont do jack shit.

but lets just wait and see at the end of the summer. no point in criticising moggi and the club until its all over done with.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#51
++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


I absolutely agree. And if you look at AC Milan last year, they hardly signed any monster players and yet look at the results they got?

Kaka turned out to be compared with the all-time greats already, relegating Rui Costa to the bench. Pancaro and Cafu, who were considered too old and washed up to be that effective anymore, had excellent seasons and were in a good part responsible for some of Milan's tremendous success.

You sometimes can do a lot with smart, targeted trades that fall under the radar of the blockbuster deal (many of which turn out to be expensive exercises in over-billing and disappointment).
I don't really think that you can compare us to Milan on this occasion because Milan didn't need to sign big, now did they? They went into the 03-04 season as holders of the CL with a very strong, well balanced squad capable of repeating their European success. Their defence boasted house-hold names such as Nesta and Maldini, but they still reinforced with Cafu and Pancaro. No big signings necessary there. In midfield Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini and Rui Costa remained. Once more, no monster players necessary. They took a risk on Kaka and it paid off, but you gotta admit, this Juve team is so much weaker than the 02-03 AC Milan squad. The Rossoneri had just done the double, they didn't need to sign big, but us on the other hand finished trophyless and have to go through the qualifying stages of the CL. We need change.
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
#52
i agree with stu here.milan,while they had a bad season in serie a two seasons ago,they did manage to win CL and the coppa.their failures domestically we due least of all to a bad squad.in fact they had,and still have,one of the best squads in the world.their problems were,obviously,not to be solved with urgent signings to fill gaps in the team,simply because there were none.

whereas in juve it is as clear as anything that we need defenders and a new attacking dimension.i'm not neccesarily asking for big name players,but we're not even getting anyone worth noting,or even signing a young player who might turn out to be the next kaka.olivier kapo?please:rolleyes:
 

aressandro10

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2003
2,884
#53
Our transfer is really boooring....look at perugia .. they might not won anything but their president always thinks of ways to entertain they fans with transfers....they are the first in Europe to sign Asian players..the first team to field a royalty in a top flight professional game...and he even try his best to field a woman into the team just for the sake of it... who cares if your team relegated or bankrupted... entetaining transfers is more importaant isnt it..;)
 

BigIzz

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
1,088
#54
Exactly. Do you want to win or do you want transfer madness. Juve has been incredibly successful over the years doing it this way, why stop now.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
#55
++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
We have to be the most boring team when it comes to transfer activity, everyday the press and ppl on here try to enlighten our transfer market with rumours and gossips but the powers that be just come with extremely boring players

Look at Charlton they have signed Rommedahl, no he is not the greatest but for Charlton fans who are used to small time, that is such a big time buy and more players are to come

Middlesboro have just got Viduka and thats quite a coup for them

Madrid have moved to address their defensive probs by signing Samuel and would have got Emerson as well if not for the fact that he does not wanna go there and they would probably get the best central defender in Euro2004 in Carvalho

Inter might never win anything but they excite their fans by bringing interesting players almost yearly

Milan won the league with the meanest defence and waht did they do they bought Stam right after that

Porto sold Ferreria to Chelsea and have moved to sign the best right back defensively in the tournament Serriadis of Greece

Barcelona have signed Guilly and setting their sights on Deco

While we have not seen the last of Chelsea yet

While Juve just bore the living daylights out of me by bringing in players you either never heard of or the ones you are happy to make fun of in other teams

Zebina-------BOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRING
kapo----------Yawn

Trezeguet to sign new contract------Yaaaaaaaaaaaaawnnnn

Chiellini-------Who----------Boooooooooooooring

Last season they did the same shite by just getting Miccolli and Maresca back from loan as if that would be enuff to win Cl

They have bored me to bits with the Emerson saga and embarrased some ppl with the Vieri episode

For fooks sakes what are these ppl being paid for , do they not watch matches both in South America and in Europe, did they not see that Porto and have Portugal have some interesting players as do clubs in Argentina and Brazil instead of buying a vastly overrated Italian on loan send him off somewhere and he comes back and does didly squat for us and then they sell him off

Trezeguet has taken quite a lot of stick from fans on here and his signing a new contract was just another boring thing for me, he is not for Juve, he is better off in teams like Barcelona and Lazio where they make chances galore and all he has to do is score as his input in teams is just slightly above zero as Euro 2004 highlighted yet again

Are they trying to tell me that they could not find a gem in the left back position in Lahm and at right back Freisburger (if that is his name) was very good as well, Miguel impressed me immensely as did Grugera , do not like jankulowski while Rosicky tends to drift in and out

I hear Valencia need to sell of players like Aimar and we had been linked to Vicente but no we have done little to address our chronic lack of creativity

Even Valencia have moved to sign Corradi and Fiore ( ap player who has tormented us so badly recently)

For the life of me, I find it staggering that we have not gone for players like Trabelsi and especially Ballack

If we are relying on Appiah, Tacchinardi and maresca then Cl will be just a mirage

Word to the wise , yesterday would have been devastating for Nedved so it will be a minor miracle if he does perform well next season while Dp is on a downward slope which I am afraid to say he may never recover from
I agree with ur comments especially that trez is not for juve and that dp is on a downward slope and we should not depend on them:down:
 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
21,621
#56
I sensed a change when we got Capello & thought we would overhaul most pf the team. But it seems after he looked at the available players then he may have been satisfied with what he has. Admittently we are not a circus event every transfer period but I feel we may have finally turned the corner by realising that we sucked last season & appointing Capello. A couple of good players will definitely add to our strength, priorities .... Defense & mid no doubt but this song has been sung ad infinitum.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
#57
Latest rumour i read is that moggi has tabled another offer for vieri which is di vaio and carini in a straight swap. once again, another dissapointing rumour, but still, its not concrete.

does anyone remember capello saying he wants to build a team for the future when he first joined? :confused:
 

The Arif

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2004
12,564
#58
++ [ originally posted by BigIzz ] ++
Juve aren't going to go out and spend big money. They won't pay more for a player then they think he is worth. This is why they are one of the only Serie A squads that isn't now or wasn't millions in debt. It may not make for the best club next season, but I do think it is best for the team in the long term to be tight with the pocketbook.

agreed. like you arent used to see juve not to sign big names every season.
 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
21,621
#59
++ [ originally posted by Adrian ] ++
does anyone remember capello saying he wants to build a team for the future when he first joined? :confused:
Has Capello said anything since his last interview while he was in Spain?
 

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