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DeviAngel

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Oct 3, 2014
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Wvwn in our worst times we manage yo pillage our opponents and take their best man even thou they won scudetto and we battle for CL football :lol:

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Another VS 'guru' (take with a pinch of salt, as usual) confirms that Giuntoli is coming. This time though, another name is mentioned: Spaletti!
The other ones were only talking about scouts/close collaborators.
Apparently Spaletti has refused but this could suggest that Giuntoli might have other ideas for the role of coach...
Well he loves fluid and attacking football.

maybe, maybe not, he's made as many mistakes as he has successes at napoli. People forget he was responsible for hiring Gattuso...
And Marotta signed Anelka, Bendtner, Elia, Krasic, Rincon, Lemina, sold Vidal for penuts etc..
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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maybe, maybe not, he's made as many mistakes as he has successes at napoli. People forget he was responsible for hiring Gattuso...
Every DS will have made mistakes and made poor signings but his record at Napoli has been largely positive.

Look at the team he's built. Except Osimhen, all mostly under the radar transfers that could be sold for 2x-3x their value. He's leaving a relatively young team behind him.

One thing I've noticed with Giuntoli is that just when he realizes that a player is starting to lose value, he immediately sells them. Fagjinho, Fabian Ruiz, Koulibaly etc the most notable examples.

But this was a club policy as well at Napoli. Given our precarious financial situation, wonder if he'll follow a similar policy. I mean imagine a situation where Bonucci and Sandro got sold when we knew that they were declining instead of handing out extensions like your Lord Tici did. I'd be totally down with this policy.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
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I think Guintoli's work is exemplary if you consider these 3 figures:

1. Total value of squad (TM) - doesn't necessarily mean the best squad, as often the best players are old and with little transfer value, but indicates how many valuable assets are there.
2. Total revenue of the club (Deloitte) - indicates the amount of resources you get to work with.
3. Total wage bill of the club (Capology) - indicates how much of those resources go into wages, also interesting to see against the value of squad and performance in the league.

Napoli
1. squad value 629m (~3.8 times larger than their yearly revenue, that's some Luis Campos level magic right there)
2. revenue 165m
3. wage bill 72m+3m in bonuses.

Juventus
1. squad value 420.7m
2. revenue 400m
3. wage bill 163m+9m in bonuses

Inter
1. squad value 534.5m (-60m when they lose Skriniar on a free)
2. revenue 308m
3. wage bill 133.5m

Essentially Guintoli gets to work with a club thats more than twice as financially powerful as Napoli, but there's a massive cleanup ahead. We've been at the end of a cycle for 5 years now. For all his apparent criticism on Tici, Bini did fuck-all to improve the situation. Give Guintoli time and hopefully in 2 years we are back to dominating not just revenues and wage bill, but on pitch too.

p.s. Beppe might be driving Inter into the ground after the Conte heights, looks like a tough few years ahead for them.
 
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bongraider

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Feb 6, 2012
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But this was a club policy as well at Napoli. Given our precarious financial situation, wonder if he'll follow a similar policy. I mean imagine a situation where Bonucci and Sandro got sold when we knew that they were declining instead of handing out extensions like your Lord Tici did. I'd be totally down with this policy.
Ironic we were ruthless with a club icon like del Piero but rewarding to a traitor like Bonucci
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I am sure what he meant is that we could have had him on 0.8-1mil per season and to do the role Bonucci does now, staying between the squad and the coach.
Difference is that Del Piero's contract was up. So yeah I get the point about the ludicrous extension Bonucci had, for €6m at what will be 37 by the end of it. We could have expected that a guy who has never had legs would be able to play 15 games per season at 37 years old, but for €6m that is a decision we made in 2019 when he was still a very useful player.

Ultimately I don't think Del Piero would have wanted such a restricted role even at 38 years old, he's always backed himself.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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Difference is that Del Piero's contract was up. So yeah I get the point about the ludicrous extension Bonucci had, for €6m at what will be 37 by the end of it. We could have expected that a guy who has never had legs would be able to play 15 games per season at 37 years old, but for €6m that is a decision we made in 2019 when he was still a very useful player.

Ultimately I don't think Del Piero would have wanted such a restricted role even at 38 years old, he's always backed himself.
Bonucci was never really injured, barely missed games. But when he finally did, it seems like something had irreparably broken.
 

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