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Osman

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I'm sure he does. And I know it because he did it in the past years, and especifically talked about it - trying to low the average age of the squad.

But now he pretty much undid all of that, so, who knows.
Depends on what you mean undid? Evra is old so after being quality placeholder for the left flank until Sandro came. Similar sitaution with Tevez being replaced by Dybala. Our defence is ageing specifically with 35 year old Barzagli, and he gets a younger equal level player in Benatia. Yes he is 29, but solving the ageing problem doesnt mean just getting Rugani level youngsters (who is there directly to replace Chiellini in long term), but also gradually addressing the problem, and getting 29 year old for that position is fine and not too old, nearly 6 years younger. Only way we lost our WC level youngsters are Morata and Pogba, and former is completely out of our hands, and latter wanted to leave and did for a record sum. Former is replaced by 5 years older player, not ideal for rejuvenation, but said player is considerably more deadly then Morata so its certaintly fine. Pogba is a big loss both in quality and youth, but ageing wise Pjanic isnt old, only 3 years older.


Now what we need to remember is the goal of the club, CL, which means we dont necessarily need to be thinking long term goals right now but immediate one. And secondly, why do you assume we are thinking short term? If anything, Marotta is showing he is very willing to pounce and make major changes in the squad quickly. Meaning just because we arent signing young studs this summer, doesnt mean we wont soon again, he is the same guy who signed Pogba, Morata, Rugani, Sandro, Coman, Lemina, Pjaca and Dybala as soon as opportunities for them were there.


Its all about timing and opportunities available, and how your fincances look at the time. We waited a little more for long term solution for LB by getting Evra first, that did not mean he didnt have Sandro in mind when he did, only that no market opportunity for it or something else is prioritized that specific summer but he had his eye on that ball for long term anyways. He pretty much has that for all positions, we wouldnt be in this high level state of our team and squad if he didnt. So us signing Dani Alves, ONLY OLD PLAYER WE SIGNED THIS SUMMER, look at it as another Evra sitaution IMO (except MUCH BETTER :star: ), and think what kind of quality younger RB are we looking at? I hope its Bruno Peres more so then DSC...

The rest? 28-29 year olds arent too old, they will have plenty of years to service us in top level if they are good enough. And when the opportunities arise Paratrici and Marotta will pounce on top quality youngsters. As they have for past years. They elevate their goals and ambitions for signings gradually ever since the quantity of mediocrity when starting out, we should defenitely be confident they will handle this well. Only thing we should question is their ability to sign quality AM :D



P.S I did not mention the only really old player we have Gigi's replacement, simply because its insane task for any sporting director to try address replacement for...and also because Gigi is a fucking highlander. He can retire anytime he wants :touched:
 

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PhRoZeN

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P.S I did not mention the only really old player we have Gigi's replacement, simply because its insane task for any sporting director to try address replacement for...and also because Gigi is a $#@!ing highlander. He can retire anytime he wants :touched:
It is insane and the only one im sweating over.
 

Osman

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It is insane and the only one im sweating over.
Why sweat? He is fucking great, aslong aslong as he continues to be great unclinch your butt, when the time comes we will cry and look and up down on the new guy and hope he can be even 1/10th of Gigi. But this aint happening until 2 more years, hopefully longer if Gigi wants to stay as backup, which I doubt.
 

Post Ironic

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Next summer our squad will look something like this.

Buffon: 39
Neto: 28
Audero: 20

Barza: 36
Benatia: 30
Bonnucci: 30
Chilleni: 33
Licht: 33
Alves: 34
AS: 26
Rugani:23
Evra: 36

Marchisio: 31
Asa: 28
Pjanic: 27
Lemina: 23
Sturaro: 24
Matuidi: 30
Khedira: 30
Cuadrado: 29
Hernanes: 32

Higuain: 29
Manzu: 31
Dybala: 23
Pjaca: 22

Average squad: 29 years
Average starting 11: 30,75 years
Over 50 % of the squad over 30 years

Yes the age is clearly not a factor. Its even laughable to suggest such a thing. We will have the oldest squad and starting 11 among the top teams in europe, but our management knows something the others dont.There is no resale value of a 30 + year old, so when we need to replace Buffon, Barza, Alves, Licht, Chillieni, Evra Next summer or the year after that, who are we going to cash in on? But hey fuck resale value and planning for the future.
Are you being wilfully ignorant on purpose here? Or are you just plain blind to the list you just compiled?

Our squad age is massively skewed by our defense and keeper. Our midfield and attack are the perfect mix of youth and experience.

And would you look at that... once Rugani replaces Barza... potentially next summer... 13 years right there dropped. And would you look at that, average starters age becomes 29.5.

The fact that you apocalyptic doomsayers are melting down and completely ignoring the fact, that replacing just Barza and Buffon with even 25 year olds would lower our average starter age to around 28 is hilarious. You skew facts so massively. Our squad age is old because we have arguably the best defensive trio, and the best keeper in football, and we're not pushing them out just so we can claim to have a youthful squad. Because they are still world class players.

The funny part is we have already started signing players to replace them. Guys like Alex Sandro and Rugani to replace Evra and Barzagli... Next we're in need of a young RB/RWB to replace Alves/Licht... Scary, we have one pressing need next summer due to age. 1. Not several one.

And we won't be signing a young keeper to sit on the bench and make only Coppa appearances for the next 2-3 years behind Buffon. We'll probably sign a young keeper when Buffon has 1 year left, assuming none of our keepers on loan turn into worthy replacements.

What a joke this nonsense is. We literally have 1 position we have to worry about age with next summer. You really should go into details instead of spouting nonsense that completely ignores such factors as defensive players and keepers being able to play much longer in general at world class levels. And the fact we've already effectively replaced our 2 oldest defensive players in Barza and Evra with Rugani and Sandro.

But keep up the meltdown over age. It will provide great comedic value in the future when it becomes apparent how much of a non-issue this is.
 

Cheesio

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So if we get this guy, where does he fit? And what does our best midfield look like when everyone is fit?
Asamoah----Pjanic------Khedira

Drop Asamoah even if we need his physicality if Marchisio can return healthy.

Asamoah when fit is a beast and he is definetely better than Matuidi.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Are you being wilfully ignorant on purpose here? Or are you just plain blind to the list you just compiled?

Our squad age is massively skewed by our defense and keeper. Our midfield and attack are the perfect mix of youth and experience.

And would you look at that... once Rugani replaces Barza... potentially next summer... 13 years right there dropped. And would you look at that, average starters age becomes 29.5.

The fact that you apocalyptic doomsayers are melting down and completely ignoring the fact, that replacing just Barza and Buffon with even 25 year olds would lower our average starter age to around 25 is hilarious. You skew facts so massively. Our squad age is old because we have arguably the best defensive trio, and the best keeper in football, and we're not pushing them out just so we can claim to have a youthful squad. Because they are still world class players.

The funny part is we have already started signing players to replace them. Guys like Alex Sandro and Rugani to replace Evra and Barzagli... Next we're in need of a young RB/RWB to replace Alves/Licht... Scary, we have one pressing need next summer due to age. 1. Not several one.

And we won't be signing a young keeper to sit on the bench and make only Coppa appearances for the next 2-3 years behind Buffon. We'll probably sign a young keeper when Buffon has 1 year left, assuming none of our keepers on loan turn into worthy replacements.

What a joke this nonsense is. We literally have 1 position we have to worry about age with next summer. You really should go into details instead of spouting nonsense that completely ignores such factors as defensive players and keepers being able to play much longer in general at world class levels. And the fact we've already effectively replaced our 2 oldest defensive players in Barza and Evra with Rugani and Sandro.

But keep up the meltdown over age. It will provide great comedic value in the future when it becomes apparent how much of a non-issue this is.
:tup:

After all these signings I find it funny people are still complaining. I guess some people just like to complain for the sake of it.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Asamoah----Pjanic------Khedira

Drop Asamoah even if we need his physicality if Marchisio can return healthy.

Asamoah when fit is a beast and he is definetely better than Matuidi.
Where's Matuidi there? :D

I don't like Pjanic being wasted at CDM, but if it's only til Claudio returns then it's okay.

Our best midfield would probably be Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanic.

Matuidi on the bench?
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Depends on what you mean undid? Evra is old so after being quality placeholder for the left flank until Sandro came. Similar sitaution with Tevez being replaced by Dybala. Our defence is ageing specifically with 35 year old Barzagli, and he gets a younger equal level player in Benatia. Yes he is 29, but solving the ageing problem doesnt mean just getting Rugani level youngsters (who is there directly to replace Chiellini in long term), but also gradually addressing the problem, and getting 29 year old for that position is fine and not too old, nearly 6 years younger. Only way we lost our WC level youngsters are Morata and Pogba, and former is completely out of our hands, and latter wanted to leave and did for a record sum. Former is replaced by 5 years older player, not ideal for rejuvenation, but said player is considerably more deadly then Morata so its certaintly fine. Pogba is a big loss both in quality and youth, but ageing wise Pjanic isnt old, only 3 years older.


Now what we need to remember is the goal of the club, CL, which means we dont necessarily need to be thinking long term goals right now but immediate one. And secondly, why do you assume we are thinking short term? If anything, Marotta is showing he is very willing to pounce and make major changes in the squad quickly. Meaning just because we arent signing young studs this summer, doesnt mean we wont soon again, he is the same guy who signed Pogba, Morata, Rugani, Sandro, Coman, Lemina, Pjaca and Dybala as soon as opportunities for them were there.


Its all about timing and opportunities available, and how your fincances look at the time. We waited a little more for long term solution for LB by getting Evra first, that did not mean he didnt have Sandro in mind when he did, only that no market opportunity for it or something else is prioritized that specific summer but he had his eye on that ball for long term anyways. He pretty much has that for all positions, we wouldnt be in this high level state of our team and squad if he didnt. So us signing Dani Alves, ONLY OLD PLAYER WE SIGNED THIS SUMMER, look at it as another Evra sitaution IMO (except MUCH BETTER :star: ), and think what kind of quality younger RB are we looking at? I hope its Bruno Peres more so then DSC...

The rest? 28-29 year olds arent too old, they will have plenty of years to service us in top level if they are good enough. And when the opportunities arise Paratrici and Marotta will pounce on top quality youngsters. As they have for past years. They elevate their goals and ambitions for signings gradually ever since the quantity of mediocrity when starting out, we should defenitely be confident they will handle this well. Only thing we should question is their ability to sign quality AM :D



P.S I did not mention the only really old player we have Gigi's replacement, simply because its insane task for any sporting director to try address replacement for...and also because Gigi is a fucking highlander. He can retire anytime he wants :touched:
This is a great post. Even if we've been annoying the shit out of each other lately.

Our defensive line and keeper skew our squad age massively, but these players in general last much longer, and our management has already begun addressing the age issue with guys like Benatia, Sandro, Rugani... If you assume in some combination they replace Chiellini-Barza-Evra... That's 26 years overall, or 2.5 years drop to the average Starting XI.

As far as worries go, replacing Gigi in 2-3 years is it. More terrifying than when we lost Del Piero, just because how integral a part of our squad he still is. Wish the guy could play to 45.
 

Cheesio

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Where's Matuidi there? :D

I don't like Pjanic being wasted at CDM, but if it's only til Claudio returns then it's okay.

Our best midfield would probably be Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanic.

Matuidi on the bench?
He shouldn't be playing ahead of a fit Asamoah that's for sure.

I don't like Pjanic palying as a CDM too. it limits him.

When claudio come back it will be a tough one for Allegri. Go with the better players and play

Pjanic---Marchisio---Khedira but we lack so much physicality and that MF will be so slow. Drop Khedira and play Asamoah or go with Pjanic as AM and drop a CB.

Don't know what's the plan, but with our injury record i think we will end up playing something like

Pjanic----Hernanes----Matuidi :lol:
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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Why sweat? He is $#@!ing great, aslong aslong as he continues to be great unclinch your butt, when the time comes we will cry and look and up down on the new guy and hope he can be even 1/10th of Gigi. But this aint happening until 2 more years, hopefully longer if Gigi wants to stay as backup, which I doubt.
Dont get me wrong, i aint sweating right this minute but of course dread the day. I do have a life outside thinking about buffon's retirement.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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So if we get this guy, where does he fit? And what does our best midfield look like when everyone is fit?
Everyone fit in 3 man midfield he is on the bench. in 4 man midfield he is LCM, Marchisio DM, Khedira RCM and Pjanic AM and we will wreck havoc.



Btw this guy is so one footed that he will only play LCM, kinda like how Asamoah only plays there for us.
 

Kian

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Jul 22, 2011
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Asamoah----Pjanic------Khedira

Drop Asamoah even if we need his physicality if Marchisio can return healthy.

Asamoah when fit is a beast and he is definetely better than Matuidi.
Yeah because Asamoah has been beasting around central midfield for the last few years while Matuidi has been out injured or playing as a wingback. Man some posts here are so absurd it's not even funny anymore.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Since when are 29 years old players veterans?
Exactly.

Good to have Beppe as our manager and not some tuz users.

We'd end up signing 10 18-year olds every summer.

Matuidi is in his prime. He's no Pogba, but a proven CM. And that's what we needed, a topclass CM for rotation, and not a 20 year old gamble. €30m is too much imo, but in todays market it's an ok price.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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He shouldn't be playing ahead of a fit Asamoah that's for sure.

I don't like Pjanic palying as a CDM too. it limits him.

When claudio come back it will be a tough one for Allegri. Go with the better players and play

Pjanic---Marchisio---Khedira but we lack so much physicality and that MF will be so slow. Drop Khedira and play Asamoah or go with Pjanic as AM and drop a CB.

Don't know what's the plan, but with our injury record i think we will end up playing something like

Pjanic----Hernanes----Matuidi
Would it make sense to pay so much for him to be a backup?

Agreed about how soft and slow that midfield looks.

Everyone fit in 3 man midfield he is on the bench. in 4 man midfield he is LCM, Marchisio DM, Khedira RCM and Pjanic AM and we will wreck havoc.



Btw this guy is so one footed that he will only play LCM, kinda like how Asamoah only plays there for us.
Expensive bench option huh?

Maybe we will see that 4-3-1-2 more often in CL after all. Kinda makes sense
 
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