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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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3 midfields?

But yeah, this can only make sense to me if we plan on using a 4 man midfield regularly
i dont see him benching either of Pjanic, Marchisio, Khedira really. but since Pjanic and Marchisio can play anywhere around the midfield, that allows us to play Matuidi as LCM if either of our starting trio gets injured and just move Pjanic if necessary
 

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PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Are you being wilfully ignorant on purpose here? Or are you just plain blind to the list you just compiled?

Our squad age is massively skewed by our defense and keeper. Our midfield and attack are the perfect mix of youth and experience.

And would you look at that... once Rugani replaces Barza... potentially next summer... 13 years right there dropped. And would you look at that, average starters age becomes 29.5.

The fact that you apocalyptic doomsayers are melting down and completely ignoring the fact, that replacing just Barza and Buffon with even 25 year olds would lower our average starter age to around 28 is hilarious. You skew facts so massively. Our squad age is old because we have arguably the best defensive trio, and the best keeper in football, and we're not pushing them out just so we can claim to have a youthful squad. Because they are still world class players.

The funny part is we have already started signing players to replace them. Guys like Alex Sandro and Rugani to replace Evra and Barzagli... Next we're in need of a young RB/RWB to replace Alves/Licht... Scary, we have one pressing need next summer due to age. 1. Not several one.

And we won't be signing a young keeper to sit on the bench and make only Coppa appearances for the next 2-3 years behind Buffon. We'll probably sign a young keeper when Buffon has 1 year left, assuming none of our keepers on loan turn into worthy replacements.

What a joke this nonsense is. We literally have 1 position we have to worry about age with next summer. You really should go into details instead of spouting nonsense that completely ignores such factors as defensive players and keepers being able to play much longer in general at world class levels. And the fact we've already effectively replaced our 2 oldest defensive players in Barza and Evra with Rugani and Sandro.

But keep up the meltdown over age. It will provide great comedic value in the future when it becomes apparent how much of a non-issue this is.
This is very unidimensional. It's important to ANY team of the world to have assets - youngsters (by that I mean players till 25/26) with developing AND money making from fees potential. Look how many of these guys Madrid sells every year.

And we obviously have lost much more assets than gained the past 2 mercatos. It's not that hard to understand.

Our midfield is the most worrisome here, because the one of the young guys we have is completely average (Sturaro), and the other is still a project (Lemina). Ideally we should have added another talented guy instead of Matuidi, and we should replace Sturaro with a better one.
 

GarfielD

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It's not too old today. But it will get too old in 2 years, unless we offload a bunch of players. And if timing isnt right, we could be in trouble.
Im not woried at all.

We seem to add a lot of players every year, some of them in the prime (Khedira, Pjanic, Sandro, Higuain, Matuidi, Tevez, Cuadrado, Mandzukic...), some young and promising (Pjaca, Morata, Lemina, Sturaro, Rugani, Mandragora...), some experiensed and over 30 years older but WC players (Pirlo, Alves, Evra...).

Why are people woried its beyond me. Even our oldest players have at least 1-2 years on top level (Buffon, Barza, Alves), maybe not as starters, but for sure a bench options. The rest of them (Giorgio, Claudio, Mandzukic, Khedira, Matuidi.. ) as I said, have at least 3 more years at top level. Add here the players we will get in the future, its not like we are gonna stay with the same team every year.
 

PedroFlu

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:tup:

After all these signings I find it funny people are still complaining. I guess some people just like to complain for the sake of it.
Look, in general its more about this one last move. All the other ones were great, even though paying that absurd fee for Higuain was kind of reckless and it's to be seen how it will work out.

Mercato was very good in general. Being disatisfied is very different from pointing out negatives.
 

GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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Damn, I knew Matuidi was underated here, but this is just silly.

The guy is a beast. Certainly not on Pogba's level, but still a freakin' good player.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Damn, I knew Matuidi was underated here, but this is just silly.

The guy is a beast. Certainly not on Pogba's level, but still a freakin' good player.
He's been good enough to start for PSG for 5 years. The same club that can afford to spend 60m on David Luiz but didn't decide to replace him in all that time. But apparently according to some here he is not good :lol:
 

PedroFlu

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You realize within one year span we added 15-16 players to the squad? And you worry about how we will look in 2-3 years from now?
That's the point, exactly. So far, the overhaul was necessary, with Pirlo/Tevez/Vidal and then Pogba/Morata, all core players leaving.

Ideally we should try to stop the overhaul for a few years, or at least reduce the number of moves. Last season we had our worst start in the history of serie A, and that was no coincidente.

But now, the fact we have a lot of players who will have to be replaced in 2-3 years makes the big changing inevitable again.
 

dolph

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Im not woried at all.

We seem to add a lot of players every year, some of them in the prime (Khedira, Pjanic, Sandro, Higuain, Matuidi, Tevez, Cuadrado, Mandzukic...), some young and promising (Pjaca, Morata, Lemina, Sturaro, Rugani, Mandragora...), some experiensed and over 30 years older but WC players (Pirlo, Alves, Evra...).

Why are people woried its beyond me. Even our oldest players have at least 1-2 years on top level (Buffon, Barza, Alves), maybe not as starters, but for sure a bench options. The rest of them (Giorgio, Claudio, Mandzukic, Khedira, Matuidi.. ) as I said, have at least 3 more years at top level. Add here the players we will get in the future, its not like we are gonna stay with the same team every year.
Thats 8 players you mention who will have at least 3 years left. I would like to ad Licht and Evra. So you need to gradually replace 10 quality players 7 of them being starters in the next 3 years. The players mentioned will have almost zero marketvalue. You have 60 mil. net to spend every summer for the next 3 years. Are we going to replace 10 quality players for 180 mil. in a world where Higuain cost us 90 mil. or are we going to have to replace with players of a lessor quality.
 

Osman

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Damn, I knew Matuidi was underated here, but this is just silly.

The guy is a beast. Certainly not on Pogba's level, but still a freakin' good player.
Some humble pies will be had well into the season when they realize how very useful he is with nonstop runs and very eager and efficient way he likes to join the attack.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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This is very unidimensional. It's important to ANY team of the world to have assets - youngsters (by that I mean players till 25/26) with developing AND money making from fees potential. Look how many of these guys Madrid sells every year.

And we obviously have lost much more assets than gained the past 2 mercatos. It's not that hard to understand.

Our midfield is the most worrisome here, because the one of the young guys we have is completely average (Sturaro), and the other is still a project (Lemina). Ideally we should have added another talented guy instead of Matuidi, and we should replace Sturaro with a better one.
:tup:
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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That's the point, exactly. So far, the overhaul was necessary, with Pirlo/Tevez/Vidal and then Pogba/Morata, all core players leaving.

Ideally we should try to stop the overhaul for a few years, or at least reduce the number of moves. Last season we had our worst start in the history of serie A, and that was no coincidente.

But now, the fact we have a lot of players who will have to be replaced in 2-3 years makes the big changing inevitable again.
Don't think the management agrees with that idea. It was Allegri's first season when we got to the final and no one expected it. You can't just build a squad for one season and expect to win it when so much is based on luck. It's best to build the best squad you can for each season. You could try and build a team to win in one particular season but get knocked out by bad luck in the round of 16 and then the year after get a relatively easy run to the final.
 

Cerval

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Some humble pies will be had well into the season when they realize how very useful he is with nonstop runs and very eager and efficient way he likes to join the attack.
Relativism will probably happen for some, but regardless of that he's still not the type of player we should have gone for.
 

zizinho

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Neto (27)

Benatia (29) Bonucci (29) Rugani (22)

Cuadrado (28) Sturaro (23) Lemina (23) Pjanic (26) Alex Sandro (25)

Dybala (23) Higuain (28 :hihi:)

this is without considering the signings we will make in the coming 5-6 years and without considering players out on loan and we have options on like Mandragora, Sensi, Lirola, Donsah, Bentancur, Cubas etc. people really need to stop overreacting about everything
 
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