Belgium is a racist nation... full of racists... (3 Viewers)

[Enron]

No. In theory Van Damme could be fined and he could be forced to pay compensation, but it won't happen because Onyewu didn't suffer any damage. Because of that it's not possible for Onyewu to start the entire procedure and I doubt that the public prosecutor would see much importance in this case.

I think it would be a civil case and Onyewu would definitely seek a damage, for what I don't know. But if the case is obviously filed so the procedure is able to be started even though Onyewu won't win. You can sue for anything, you can file suit for anything too. Whether or not the court sees your case as hearable is up or debate. At least that's how it goes here.

 

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[Enron]

I'm Canadian, brother! Multiculturalism, and Man on Man lovin all the way!



I am something of a product of Europe though...

On one side:Italian grandfather - French/German Grandmother
On the other side, English/Scottish grandfather, English/Irish grandmother

My dad's from New Mexico, and my mom is Canadian. I am a mutt... descended from monkeys, and oh so confused...:biggrin:

Ahhh, to be Canadian.

Canada. Yeah. Not much more you can do to kill a dialogue than admit to being from Canada.

 

[Alen]

No. In theory Van Damme could be fined and he could be forced to pay compensation, but it won't happen because Onyewu didn't suffer any damage. Because of that it's not possible for Onyewu to start the entire procedure and I doubt that the public prosecutor would see much importance in this case.

And can Onyewu prove it at all? Unless it's recorded or Van Damme is caught on a camera saying this, how exactly can Onyewu prove this?

Can't Van Damme say " No, i didn't call him a dirty monkey but Onyewu was insulting Belgium and the Belgian people and he said that he has information about a terrorist attack in Brussels"?

And then someone accuses someone else, and a football player from Lokeren accusses a football player from Mons, and so on and so on.

 

[Enron]

And can Onyewu prove it at all? Unless it's recorded or Van Damme is caught on a camera saying this, how exactly can Onyewu prove this?

Can't Van Damme say " No, i didn't call him a dirty monkey but Onyewu was insulting Belgium and the Belgian people and he said that he has information about a terrorist attack in Brussels"?

And then someone accuses someone else, and a football player from Lokeren accusses a football player from Mons, and so on and so on.

Oguche should just knocked him the fuck out. Things would be easier that way. Infraction followed by punishment. But you know the funny thing? You guys would still be saying 'Stupid American'.

 

[Bjerknes]

Onyewu really should get out of that league and on to a better one. Stay away from the racist fans in Belgium and Croatia.

Only reason why Gooch is getting stick is because he's an American.

If he was Dembele or Balotelli, these people would be outraged and wouldn't laugh at them suing anybody.

 

[Rollie]

Lots of fucking in WW2 in your family then?

:eyebrows:

Canada. Yeah. Not much more you can do to kill a dialogue than admit to being from Canada.

MOTHERFUCKER!! :analcanon: :analcanon:

Comments like this is why I haven't applied for my dual citizenship yet... you ignorant American pricks... :evil:

That, and complications with tax laws... and the fact that an American passport abroad is not exactly a plus (in most cases) at this time...

Nah, you Yanks take a lot of flack, but most of you are OK... I guess...

 

[Alen]

Onyewu really should get out of that league and on to a better one. Stay away from the racist fans in Belgium and Croatia.

Only reason why Gooch is getting stick is because he's an American.

If he was Dembele or Balotelli, these people would be outraged and wouldn't laugh at them suing anybody.

I will laugh at every single guy (Literally everyone. Including someone i love from my family or a friend) if he sues another football player for something said to him during a football match.

Insult him back or do a Zidane and knock him down, but to sue him?
Please!

 

[Enron]

MOTHERFUCKER!! :analcanon: :analcanon:

Comments like this is why I haven't applied for my dual citizenship yet... you ignorant American pricks... :evil:

That, and complications with tax laws... and the fact that an American passport abroad is not exactly a plus (in most cases) at this time...

Nah, you Yanks take a lot of flack, but most of you are OK... I guess...

I actually don't mind Canada. After all, it is the better side of the Falls.

 

[Bjerknes]

I will laugh at every single guy (Literally everyone. Including someone i love from my family or a friend) if he sues another football player for something said to him during a football match.

Insult him back or do a Zidane and knock him down, but to sue him?
Please!

Then there's no two ways about it.

You promote racism.

 

[Enron]

I will laugh at every single guy (Literally everyone. Including someone i love from my family or a friend) if he sues another football player for something said to him during a football match.

Insult him back or do a Zidane and knock him down, but to sue him?
Please!

But you are Croatian.

 

[Bjerknes]

If the league or referee won't do anything about it, then Gooch and his lawyer have a right to complain. It's not about money, not about pity, but rather about putting an end to that crap.

But I guess that's another thing that will never happen in the fantastic country of Belgium.

 

[Alen]

Then there's no two ways about it.

You promote racism.

Calling someone a racist might work in USA if you want to beat a guy in an argument, but here it doesn't.

Ok, i might not really understand racism and what it means in America. But i have a child and i guess that calling a black guy a monkey during a football match has a similar value with someone saying to me "I will rape your child and murder him".

You know, i won't sue that guy.

 

[Rollie]

I actually don't mind Canada. After all, it is the better side of the Falls.

Yeah, I kind of got that, bro. Don't forget beaver tails, igloos, mounties, hockey, basketball, Moose, and Shania Twain... to round out some good ole cliches.

 

[Bjerknes]

Calling someone a racist might work in USA if you want to beat a guy in an argument, but here it doesn't.

Ok, i might not really understand racism and what it means in America. But i have a child and i guess that calling a black guy a monkey during a football match has a similar value with someone saying to me "I will rape your child and murder him".

You know, i won't sue that guy.

Maybe you're right. Maybe nobody should do anything about it.

But what if Milan fans were making visible monkey chants that were directed towards Sissoko and the league didn't do anything about it? Would you want somebody to press charges against them, or would you laugh at Juventus or Sissoko for bringing the issue up in court?

 

[Bozi]

how can Belgium be racist if it does not exist? the tooth fairy allah,god,Jehova and John Travolta in a good movie are all more real than belgium

 

[Enron]

Calling someone a racist might work in USA if you want to beat a guy in an argument, but here it doesn't.

Ok, i might not really understand racism and what it means in America. But i have a child and i guess that calling a black guy a monkey during a football match has a similar value with someone saying to me "I will rape your child and murder him".

You know, i won't sue that guy.

That wouldn't piss an American off. I can go out to a bar or where ever with a black man and call him a cocksucker, motherfucker, dick cheese, fuckface, needledick, and glasses and he wouldn't get mad. But I could call him any one of nigger, monkey, spook, coon, or boy and expect to get punched in the face. It's just one of those things you'll never understand.

 

[Alen]

Maybe you're right. Maybe nobody should do anything about it.

But what if Milan fans were making visible monkey chants that were directed towards Sissoko and the league didn't do anything about it? Would you want somebody to press charges against them, or would you laugh at Juventus or Sissoko for bringing the issue up in court?

And what is visible in this case with Onyewu?

If the Milan fans are caught on cameras and there are millions of witnesses, i'd expect Juventus to press charges if the league does shit about this.

 

[Bjerknes]

And what is visible in this case with Onyewu?

If the Milan fans are caught on cameras and there are millions of witnesses, i'd expect Juventus to press charges if the league does shit about this.

So you're saying that Onyewu made it up? And how do you know that his teammates didn't hear it as well?

Of course people won't believe him, though. He's a big dumb black American player.

 

[Alen]

So you're saying that Onyewu made it up? And how do you know that his teammates didn't hear it as well?

Of course people won't believe him, though. He's a big dumb black American player.

I'm pretty sure that he didn't make it up, but from what i understood from the article it's his word against Van Damme's word. Van Damme has denied the allegations. So what should the Belgian FA do?

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm pretty sure that he didn't make it up, but from what i understood from the article it's his word against Van Damme's word. Van Damme has denied the allegations. So what should the Belgian FA do?

Investigate, but they apparently won't be doing that.