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AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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2004 dutch team wasn't that great either
don't forget our dutch team has a great team spirit and that is which took us to the final of the wc last year. Ofcourse in 1998 and 2000 we had a better team on paper. But this current team is pretty good together. And fits each other perfectly, which took us to the world cup final and we almost won it.

and our starting eleven hasn't change a lot only van bronkhorst is replaced with willems (I hope, all though it probably will be schaars) and affelay for Kuyt.
Which is a huge upgrade. I am not scared for this Italy team at all to be honest. I think France, Germany can hurt Holland more
It's normal. No one rate's Italy when going to major tournament. But we always produce the goods when it matters.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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In what way would your rate the team in 2010 better than the current team ? Apart from being the current world champions at that time, that team was much more worst than the current one playing in this Euros.
Going to the tournament, we even had poor outings from Euro 2008 and the Confederation Cup in 2009. Surely, we weren't over rated that time.


Odds To Win The World Cup 2010: Fractional (American) (All Odds Taken from Ladbrokes.com On The 11/24/09)
Spain - 4/1 (+400)
Brazil - 9/2 (+450)
Argentina - 6/1 (+600)
England - 7/1 (+700)
Netherlands - 10/1 (+1000)
Germany - 14/1 (+1400)
Italy - 16/1 (+1600)
France - 20/1 (+2000)
Portugal - 22/1 (+2200)
Ivory Coast - 50/1 (+5000)
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
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In what way would your rate the team in 2010 better than the current team ? Apart from being the current world champions at that time, that team was much more worst than the current one playing in this Euros.
Going to the tournament, we even had poor outings from Euro 2008 and the Confederation Cup in 2009. Surely, we weren't over rated that time.


Odds To Win The World Cup 2010: Fractional (American) (All Odds Taken from Ladbrokes.com On The 11/24/09)
Spain - 4/1 (+400)
Brazil - 9/2 (+450)
Argentina - 6/1 (+600)
England - 7/1 (+700)
Netherlands - 10/1 (+1000)
Germany - 14/1 (+1400)
Italy - 16/1 (+1600)
France - 20/1 (+2000)
Portugal - 22/1 (+2200)
Ivory Coast - 50/1 (+5000)
You said Italy was always expect to do poor and come out doing much better
so I named the world cup 2010 as example for when that doesn't count
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
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You said Italy was always expect to do poor and come out doing much better
so I named the world cup 2010 as example for when that doesn't count
What i meant was Italy were never rated to win the tournament. No one would expect Italy to do poor, always decent showing but we would never be rated among top 3 bracket.
Same situation here, where you rated France, Germany and Holland to do more than Italy. Not to forget the obvious favorite Spain as well. Apart from Germany and Spain, I don't think France and Holland are on a level above Italy.
On par maybe, but not a big difference where they a rated a level above.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
They are in the same group, they can't all come out of it.
Oh yes, correct. Totally forgot. :) thanks for pointing that out. Also, if Germany and Holland make it, they won't play each other before the semis right or the final?

Ok so my final four in that case, would be: Germany, Portugal, Italy and England, don't ask how, but I do some psycho numerology. England will surprise.
 

Joe

Senior Member
Dec 20, 2009
14,980
:sergio: :sergio: :sergio:
come on. Marchisio will shine earlier then that overrated piece of olive oil
:lol: Montolivo will suck so hard and be put to rest after 45 minutes against Spain; Giovinco will take over and shine :p

I know Montolivo gets a lot of shit around here but I think he is a decent player. He also played well at the WC'10 IMO.

I just have a feeling he'll perform well. Marchisio will be effective, yet quiet. Just like he usually is with Juventus.
 

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