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[Enron]

I see Italy sticking to the formation they used against England.

 

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[Red]

What do you guys think is better vs Germany? A 4-3-1-2? or a 3-5-2?

See what players are fit and not exhausted and then see what system they can be fitted to.

3-5-2 if you accept Germany will dominate and Italy will try to soak up pressure and try to break.

4-3-1-2 if Italy want to take Germany on in a more even game.

 

[Kasaki]

If this was a Quarter final or Group game I would soooo be against rushing him bacl

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See what players are fit and not exhausted and then see what system they can be fitted to.

3-5-2 if you accept Germany will dominate and Italy will try to soak up pressure and try to break.

4-3-1-2 if Italy want to take Germany on in a more even game.

I think with either formation they are going to end up soaking pressure. So 3-5-2 is better in the regards that they have one extra body in the mid to stop bastian and co.

 

[Joe]

Isn't Schweini out for this one?

Prandelli said we're going to attack Germany, so I'm guessing we'll stick with the 4-3-1-2?

Even if Chiellini misses next match, Barzagli and Bonucci played exceptionally well IMO.

 

[Red]

Article on Pirlo and England inadequacies: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-italy-england

Italian press: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-italy-press-verdict-england

More on Pirlo: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-italy-andrea-pirlo-england

---------- Post added 25.06.2012 at 16:52 ----------

I think with either formation they are going to end up soaking pressure. So 3-5-2 is better in the regards that they have one extra body in the mid to stop bastian and co.

4-3-1-2 gives Italy more chance of keeping the game in midfield and allowing Italy to keep the ball more.

3-5-2 will put a lot of pressure on Italy's back three and will almost inevitably result in them being pushed very deep for large chinks of the game.

Isn't Schweini out for this one?

Prandelli said we're going to attack Germany, so I'm guessing we'll stick with the 4-3-1-2?

Schweinsteiger is nursing an ankle injury, but will almost certainly play.

And, yeah. I'd expect Italy to play 4-3-1-2.

 

[mukumsplau]

racist gazetta

 

[DIECI]

I think Diamante will start for Cassano actually... Antonio must be spent after having such a short SerieA and still probably not 100% fitness from his return. This team really misses a bomber or a someone that could put it in the back of the net. I think Rossi would have been great upfront with this group along side Balo or Cassano..... What do you guys think of this formation vs Germany? Assuming DeRossi and Chellini are fit to go.

.............Balotelli..Diamanti
..MarchisioDeRossi.Pirlo.Nocerino
Balzaretti..Chellini.Barzagli..Abate
....................Buffon

Subs
Cassano for Diamante 60th min
DiNatale for Balotelli 70th min

---------- Post added 25.06.2012 at 08:56 ----------

racist gazetta

what did they say?

---------- Post added 25.06.2012 at 09:01 ----------

No troll.

If you can't see what Balotelli does to the opponent's backline, you're blind. He and Cassano are our best strikers and they should always start.

I agree... Like I said, Balo is dangerous everytime he touches the ball... he's had many shots on goal just needs to convert. Think about it, this kid barely knows how to play the game, once he gets more mature, and learns the small details he will be a total beast. This Italy team has played well, very similar to Juve, great midfield with little scoring upfront. In essence this Euro is just a tune up, warm up and chance to gain experience on the world stage... If Prandelli sticks to this core, keeps making them grow this team will be scary come WC 2014.

 

[Kasaki]

Article on Pirlo and England inadequacies: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-italy-england



Italian press: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-italy-press-verdict-england

More on Pirlo: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-italy-andrea-pirlo-england

---------- Post added 25.06.2012 at 16:52 ----------



4-3-1-2 gives Italy more chance of keeping the game in midfield and allowing Italy to keep the ball more.

3-5-2 will put a lot of pressure on Italy's back three and will almost inevitably result in them being pushed very deep for large chinks of the game.




Schweinsteiger is nursing an ankle injury, but will almost certainly play.

And, yeah. I'd expect Italy to play 4-3-1-2.

If Prandelli picks a 4-3-1-2 then the trequartista has to be a midfield player imo. Montolivo.Motta would suit that position.

 

[Salvo]

"he may be a little old and a little slow"

 

[Red]

If Prandelli picks a 4-3-1-2 then the trequartista has to be a midfield player imo. Montolivo.Motta would suit that position.

Wouldn't expect it to be anything else, since he's consistently done that through his time in charge.

 

[ZoSo]

And Balotelli shouldn't start against Germany, I swear Borriello would've scored some of the chances that cunt Balotelli missed.

Borriello never would have gotten into the positions that Balotelli got himself into...

 

[Salvo]

Yeah I can't see him changing it now. What do you think about the upcoming game Red, what result are you predicting?

 

[Salvatore]

I hope last night showed a lot of people on here why Giovinco or Cassano will be a bad idea as a trequartista. Pirlo was caught forward up the pitch in the first half and you saw Montolivo run back and fit into that role he played, then showed a bit of strength in chasing someone down and reclaiming possession. Pirlo will not cover for the lack of defensive skills off the ball so it needs someone more physical.

pace was a lot slower in this game, played the old Italy style we are used to seeing rather than the high tempo pressing game seen earlier.

That's beneficial for the Italians in this world I was describing, but England were shattered midway through the second half with the (supposedly) slower pace than they're used to.

I was wondering whether the argument that England could better prepare their players was relevant or not.

It's playing 4-3-1-2 that helps a lot, I think.

With 3-5-2 pretty much all the running had to be done by the midfield five.

With 4-3-1-2 the two fullbacks do their share so the bulk of the running is shared between six.

It's also a system that allows you to do more of the defending in midfield, in relatively safe areas, where 3-5-2 tends to require a lot more of the defending to be done from the defenders as it is tougher for the midfield to sheild them as well.

Also, Prandelli has started to make better changes as the tournament has gone on and brought on appropriate players at appropriate times against England.

As for England, it's just a really hard slog playing with everyone behind the ball the whole game. Particularly tough for the midfield two who were heavily outnumbered.

England didn't really do much pressing at all, most of it was sit deep and absorb. I don't really know why that would have worn them down so much, they didn't do the off the ball work I was expecting, or at least didn't survive with it until about 30 minutes into the first half when Pirlo started bossing. 30 minutes is pathetic.

Even during extra time I saw players like Rooney being absolutely dead, and he's supposed to be someone that is in the best shape of their life.

 

[ZoSo]

They probably go down to the pub every week and sink numerous pots and smoke.

 

[dann10]

montolivo has to be on the bench next game. He seriously offered nothing aside from some nice moves, but most of his mistakes lead to english counters. And i would honestly start diamanti ahead of cassano. Aside from the lucky goal against ireland, cassano has really offered nothing. And balotelli being the only striker infront of a 4-man english defence, what more did you want him to do? If we play like we did against england, get chiellini back, and have balo burry some of those chances, i dont see why we cant beat the germans and infact beat the spanish too

 

[I am John]

Rooney looks fat.

 

[Nedvěd]

Rooney looks fat.

Rooney is fat.

 

[ZoSo]

He's also a bald headed fuck with a turd on his head.

 

[Red]

England didn't really do much pressing at all, most of it was sit deep and absorb. I don't really know why that would have worn them down so much, they didn't do the off the ball work I was expecting, or at least didn't survive with it until about 30 minutes into the first half when Pirlo started bossing. 30 minutes is pathetic.

Even during extra time I saw players like Rooney being absolutely dead, and he's supposed to be someone that is in the best shape of their life.

As well as still having to cover a lot of distance even when just shuffling back and forward to maintain shape, it's pretty demoralising playing like that over an extended period unless you are really mentally prepared for it.

 

[mukumsplau]

just came across this on goal.com's comment section

The History OF Nocerino Jokes

its started after milan fan crying to see antonio nocerino playing instead of pirlo & co. then we decide to award nocerino as the best ever footballer on the planet to make milan fan happy

Nocerino had a pet rock ..he called it Earth ....when Bruce Banner Gets mad he turns into the Hulk when the Hulk Gets man he turns into Antonio Nocerino when Nocerino gets mad ..you better run ...Nocerino can sit in the corner of a round room ...Nocerino's computer has no backspace because Nocerino dont make mistakes

nocerino isn't interested for lowly continental awards like ballon dor. he goes for inter-galactical awards. meanwhile lord lokki gets home early from work to watch nocerino plays. He is the equivalent of ten million Messi's and Ronaldo's and Van Bastens's

Nocerino is the next Emily Heskey, But better, even better than Chuck noris.