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Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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-He is not accepted as equal with many prestigious managers and he is presented with insulting options.
-He lacks the negotiating skills and experience to make a deal of this level happen. He has been gaining international prestige, but still not up there, in this level.
-Our board apparently does not trust him enough to authorize him a deal of big salary demands, or they just dont want them to happen, as this financial strategy kep us afloat, when the other Serie A giants went down.
-Marotta himself prefers to make more small deals of mediocre level players,or older players who are about to retire, in a couple of years, instead of good one with long perspectives, that wont give an opportunity to justify more new transfers in the coming transfer windows. For example, he got Pogba, just to sell him in a couple of years and replace him with new transfers, got Pirlo who was also bound to quit professional football in 2 years, got Vidal with the intention to sell him in 2 years too, got Khedira after losing half of his match days 2 consecutive years etc and is likely to require a replacement or complement soon.
-Fabregas is still fairly young and healthy and will forbid the justification of Mediocre mediocre CM group of transfers and is unlikely to be sold too, as he prefers to respect his contract and leave as free agent, his current manager Dein has only EPL players and made a good deal with Man City for Clichy, profitable for all parties, which is most likely to happen again.

Managers are taking an official cut from a deal and sometimes an unofficial too, some managers prefer the big deals, others prefer the smaller ones, both player managers and team managers,
so sometimes the decisions they made, also take that into consideration.
Darren Dein is well into the big time EPL player contracts, as he has the contracts of Fabregas, Clichy and RPV, players of such prestige raise a lot of eyebrows and the biggest and wealthiest FCs are willing to play a lot of official and unofficial cash for them. Approaching his agent and give him black money and/or other favors is sad reality
and this higher circle, most of the lower life transfer managers are excluded, even if they have a decent offer on their hands.
Marotta has many times proved that he is unable to make such deals happen, even when Juventus, as a club was a decent destination for the player we aimed for...

For Daren Dein its a risk to expect some black money or favors from Marotta, whilst he knows what to expect from Man City or PSG...
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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No big/cash rich team would be wanting to sign Cesc.

He's going to turn 29 shortly so the notion that the top teams will be queuing up to sign him is pretty laughable.

At best, only PSG might consider him but even then their midfield is already packed with quality.With the revenue such as theirs they'd be aiming to sign the hot properties in the game today than a Chelsea flop.

Juventus is the most attractive option he can aim for if he leaves Chelsea.
So you believe ?

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-He is not accepted as equal with many prestigious managers and he is presented with insulting options.
-He lacks the negotiating skills and experience to make a deal of this level happen. He has been gaining international prestige, but still not up there, in this level.
-Our board apparently does not trust him enough to authorize him a deal of big salary demands, or they just dont want them to happen, as this financial strategy kep us afloat, when the other Serie A giants went down.
-Marotta himself prefers to make more small deals of mediocre level players,or older players who are about to retire, in a couple of years, instead of good one with long perspectives, that wont give an opportunity to justify more new transfers in the coming transfer windows. For example, he got Pogba, just to sell him in a couple of years and replace him with new transfers, got Pirlo who was also bound to quit professional football in 2 years, got Vidal with the intention to sell him in 2 years too, got Khedira after losing half of his match days 2 consecutive years etc and is likely to require a replacement or complement soon.
-Fabregas is still fairly young and healthy and will forbid the justification of Mediocre mediocre CM group of transfers and is unlikely to be sold too, as he prefers to respect his contract and leave as free agent, his current manager Dein has only EPL players and made a good deal with Man City for Clichy, profitable for all parties, which is most likely to happen again.

Managers are taking an official cut from a deal and sometimes an unofficial too, some managers prefer the big deals, others prefer the smaller ones, both player managers and team managers,
so sometimes the decisions they made, also take that into consideration.
Darren Dein is well into the big time EPL player contracts, as he has the contracts of Fabregas, Clichy and RPV, players of such prestige raise a lot of eyebrows and the biggest and wealthiest FCs are willing to play a lot of official and unofficial cash for them. Approaching his agent and give him black money and/or other favors is sad reality
and this higher circle, most of the lower life transfer managers are excluded, even if they have a decent offer on their hands.
Marotta has many times proved that he is unable to make such deals happen, even when Juventus, as a club was a decent destination for the player we aimed for...

For Daren Dein its a risk to expect some black money or favors from Marotta, whilst he knows what to expect from Man City or PSG...
Marotta and Paraticy were praised by the entire EPL last season for buildingn such a good squad with so little money, and having such great wagestructure and having such keep eye for the right talent.

Every analyst on brittish television knows him, mentions him or Paraticy.

Sandro and Dybala were high profile dealings.

Marotta is limited by the finances of the club. And he is the reason why we have such healthy finances.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
37,336
If we have a shot for Gundogan or Cesc we gotta take it! Specially without having to sell our assets in the midfield. I'd rather not redeem Cuadrado and sell Zaza to get one of those two atm.

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Our midfield would be top 3 muds in the world again if not the best.

Picture this

Dybala
Gundogan-----Pogs
Cheesio

It's sex!!
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,161
Why is Dybala in the middfield?

What's this fixation folks have with him at AM spot? He's best used when closest to a goal.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,346
Don't know if it's been posted or not but according to La Stampa, Juve is interested in El Shaarawhy el carajo or whatever the fuck his name is, and Monaco has been asking for Zaza. Don't know if it's legit it's from a tweet.

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It also says this "La Stampa reports that Milan does not mind El Carajo going to Juventus as long as they get 14mil in July"
 
Apr 9, 2015
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I think we don't need Banega, he isn't good enough for first XI and he is too pricy to give him a place on the bench. Marchisio > Banega, for sure. Milan is also interested in Banega btw.

Do we need Darmian right now? We have Licht and Cuadrado and Darmian will be another Lichtsteiner 2.0. Maybe in the summer when Cuadrado leaves.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Don't know if it's been posted or not but according to La Stampa, Juve is interested in El Shaarawhy el carajo or whatever the $#@! his name is, and Monaco has been asking for Zaza. Don't know if it's legit it's from a tweet.

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It also says this "La Stampa reports that Milan does not mind El Carajo going to Juventus as long as they get 14mil in July"
I wouldn't do that exchange or whatever that would be. SES can wait till the Summer and Milan will sell him anyway.

Zaza started here pretty well IMO and that's not the time to let him go. Keep him, promise more chances and give it to him. Let's see if he can build on this.

SES is a very big gamble right now, Zaza as for now is on the rise. If Berardi comes and Morata stays we won't even need SES anymore.

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No big/cash rich team would be wanting to sign Cesc.

He's going to turn 29 shortly so the notion that the top teams will be queuing up to sign him is pretty laughable.

At best, only PSG might consider him but even then their midfield is already packed with quality.With the revenue such as theirs they'd be aiming to sign the hot properties in the game today than a Chelsea flop.

Juventus is the most attractive option he can aim for if he leaves Chelsea.
That's not true IMO. Fabregas should cost about 30m IMO, 35m at best if there's interest from other clubs. Bayern for example could dispose Xabi Alonso and replace him with Cesc. Just like that. Same goes for City, every Summer they have the same soap opera with Yaya. Experienced Cesc will get the job done, especially if Madrid again refuses to sell them Isco.

Someone else said Chelsea wouldn't sell to rivals. I don't agree, just take a look at Mata, Cech or Lukaku, etc. all that matters is money. Chelsea will have to rebuild, they'll need it.
 
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