Arturo Vidal (127 Viewers)

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Fitness is a stupid choice of word from my side. I meant gym.
There is a very important difference between key groups


You got the body and fitness people, alot of bodybuilders, and they are all like "if you dont do it 100% you are worthless". If you want to help someone from food, they'll radicalise it entirely because "there is no middle ground". A bit like femnazi's, vegans and general tumblr people.

There are also recreative sporters and strenght athletes, who'll support anyone who'll do "something" and encourage you to do more. You want to get bigger ? start by adding 50grams of protein. better carbs ? start by replacing a bit with slower carbs. We understand and respect that not everyone is gonna go all balls out on this.

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And its the people with the "100% or fucking peasantshit" and the irritating motivational douche quotes and the million selfies, that give working out or training, a bad name.
 

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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You mean he was born a party animal?
No, I mean, it is highly unlikely he developed the alcohol issues 3-4 years in to his Juve career. Probably developed the issues, from the time he could legally drink. (i.e before he even joined Leverkusen, let alone Juve.)


Not true about the drinking problems always being the same. Things like alcoholism and excessive partying take a larger and larger toll on the body as time passes and we age. The body easily and quickly recovers from the wild year or two many young people have, even in between. But it starts to have much larger effects on the physical body as the years pass. If, and that's a big if, Vidal is as big a partier and drinker as has been suggested, his physical peak will be much shorter, and his decline much faster than more disciplined athletes.

Juventus may have made the decision to cut ties based upon what they saw as evidence that his partying was having adverse effects on his on-field fitness and performances.

As I said, big If, because tabloids and media tend to exaggerate these things to ridiculous degrees, but it is a possibility.

I think we are talking about two different things bud. What I was referring to was not his physical decline (which is definitely a given), but his attitude and issues with alcohol. The point I was trying to cite was, I don't personally think that him staying would've caused us issues in the manner they have caused his national team and now, Bayern.

Of course, we probably don't or won't know why Juve took the call they did, or if the player took that call, it may well even be what you say, but one thing's for sure Juve know that nobody is bigger than the club. Not many clubs or national team federations have that approach with their players, and that maybe one reason why Vidal wouldn't have had the balls to misbehave had he stayed on.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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No, I mean, it is highly unlikely he developed the alcohol issues 3-4 years in to his Juve career. Probably developed the issues, from the time he could legally drink. (i.e before he even joined Leverkusen, let alone Juve.)





I think we are talking about two different things bud. What I was referring to was not his physical decline (which is definitely a given), but his attitude and issues with alcohol. The point I was trying to cite was, I don't personally think that him staying would've caused us issues in the manner they have caused his national team and now, Bayern.

Of course, we probably don't or won't know why Juve took the call they did, or if the player took that call, it may well even be what you say, but one thing's for sure Juve know that nobody is bigger than the club. Not many clubs or national team federations have that approach with their players, and that maybe one reason why Vidal wouldn't have had the balls to misbehave had he stayed on.
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Good points. Agree with you for sure.
 

DeviAngel

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Oct 3, 2014
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Don't want him here. He said a lot of things after joining BM he was even inviting Coman to BM on press conferences. We don't need him, he is not the same player, let them deal with him not our problem.
 

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