Arturo Vidal (39 Viewers)

Rollie

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Apr 15, 2008
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Salvo allready infracted me

I explained the inter statue of limitations but he wasent taking
Statute, homie.

"The statute of limitations had expired, so those dirty Inter bitches unjustly avoided punishment"

Pretty sure Inter's statue of limitations features Icardi and Jovetic not scoring, while Melo dog poses, and a hysterical Mancini bawls his eyes out.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Seems he has a serious alcohol problem. Hope he really does get it sorted.

But if these reports are true, damn, we cashed in at a great time.
Fact is, if he had the problem, he always had the problem, it wasn't just the season we sold him. And if he always had the problem, but was the player we came to know and love, then I don't think this season would've been any different for him had he stayed on, unless Allegri didn't see the need for him. Bayern are a regulated club but I don't think they're as disciplined as Juve are in the way that players are treated. It may have to do with the fact that Bayern pays far bigger salaries and behave like a millionaires club while Juve create stars but also make them responsible for their stardom, in a way where they are never really bigger than the club. That is the right way IMO.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Fact is, if he had the problem, he always had the problem, it wasn't just the season we sold him. And if he always had the problem, but was the player we came to know and love, then I don't think this season would've been any different for him had he stayed on, unless Allegri didn't see the need for him. Bayern are a regulated club but I don't think they're as disciplined as Juve are in the way that players are treated. It may have to do with the fact that Bayern pays far bigger salaries and behave like a millionaires club while Juve create stars but also make them responsible for their stardom, in a way where they are never really bigger than the club. That is the right way IMO.
Not true about the drinking problems always being the same. Things like alcoholism and excessive partying take a larger and larger toll on the body as time passes and we age. The body easily and quickly recovers from the wild year or two many young people have, even in between. But it starts to have much larger effects on the physical body as the years pass. If, and that's a big if, Vidal is as big a partier and drinker as has been suggested, his physical peak will be much shorter, and his decline much faster than more disciplined athletes.

Juventus may have made the decision to cut ties based upon what they saw as evidence that his partying was having adverse effects on his on-field fitness and performances.

As I said, big If, because tabloids and media tend to exaggerate these things to ridiculous degrees, but it is a possibility.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Not true about the drinking problems always being the same. Things like alcoholism and excessive partying take a larger and larger toll on the body as time passes and we age. The body easily and quickly recovers from the wild year or two many young people have, even in between. But it starts to have much larger effects on the physical body as the years pass. If, and that's a big if, Vidal is as big a partier and drinker as has been suggested, his physical peak will be much shorter, and his decline much faster than more disciplined athletes.

Juventus may have made the decision to cut ties based upon what they saw as evidence that his partying was having adverse effects on his on-field fitness and performances.

As I said, big If, because tabloids and media tend to exaggerate these things to ridiculous degrees, but it is a possibility.
:tup:

At 18 I could drink every night and be fine the next morning without feeling much of a difference. Powers of recovery and all that.

Nowadays after a big night (I'm 30) I'm fucked for the next week lol. Pro athletes should really be treating their bodies well and not boozing up in every spare moment they have. I personally think Juventus had been concerned with his increasing alcoholism in the last season and decided to cut ties after the crash in Chile. And it seems they made the correct decision.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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:tup:

At 18 I could drink every night and be fine the next morning without feeling much of a difference. Powers of recovery and all that.

Nowadays after a big night (I'm 30) I'm fucked for the next week lol. Pro athletes should really be treating their bodies well and not boozing up in every spare moment they have. I personally think Juventus had been concerned with his increasing alcoholism in the last season and decided to cut ties after the crash in Chile. And it seems they made the correct decision.
:agree:

Same deal, I'm 31, and drinking to excess now messes me up for a good week, especially tracked by my workout progressions. It's why @Zacheryah doesn't drink at all. He's a competitive powerlifter, and the less alcohol one drinks, the better one recovers between workouts and makes gains. It's the same deal with elite athletes of every sort. And Vidal's game is 90% based on his insane drive, crazy physicality and athletic ability... The latter two are adversely affected by drinking booze regularly.

Anyways. It will be interesting to see how his career goes over the next couple years, and whether he can reign in this behaviour and be a star player into his 30s, or if he continues the sharp decline he currently appears to be on. I certainly don't wish ill upon him, but at this point I'm kind of indifferent to him. Couldn't really care either way. I'm grateful for his Juventus time and what he gave us, and the rest of his career isn't even a minor footnote for me.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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:agree:

Same deal, I'm 31, and drinking to excess now messes me up for a good week, especially tracked by my workout progressions. It's why @Zacheryah doesn't drink at all. He's a competitive powerlifter, and the less alcohol one drinks, the better one recovers between workouts and makes gains. It's the same deal with elite athletes of every sort. And Vidal's game is 90% based on his insane drive, crazy physicality and athletic ability... The latter two are adversely affected by drinking booze regularly.

Anyways. It will be interesting to see how his career goes over the next couple years, and whether he can reign in this behaviour and be a star player into his 30s, or if he continues the sharp decline he currently appears to be on. I certainly don't wish ill upon him, but at this point I'm kind of indifferent to him. Couldn't really care either way. I'm grateful for his Juventus time and what he gave us, and the rest of his career isn't even a minor footnote for me.
:tup:
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Fuck you guys make me scared of getting old
I read an interesting article the other day on how Austrians age faster and experience more rapid physical decline than any other First World Nation... Scary stuff. I'll try to find you the link, I've misplaced it, for reasons unknown quaquaquaqua... but I think there was one study by Puncher and Wattmann, and then a second study by Testew and Cunard.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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:tup:

At 18 I could drink every night and be fine the next morning without feeling much of a difference. Powers of recovery and all that.

Nowadays after a big night (I'm 30) I'm fucked for the next week lol. Pro athletes should really be treating their bodies well and not boozing up in every spare moment they have. I personally think Juventus had been concerned with his increasing alcoholism in the last season and decided to cut ties after the crash in Chile. And it seems they made the correct decision.
Booze gets me fucked for a day.

A night of heavy powder use messes me up for about 4 days.
 

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