Look at these supposed juve fans 
and @Fr3sh i have never wished i could ignore posts as much as yours, congrats sir
and @Fr3sh i have never wished i could ignore posts as much as yours, congrats sir
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What the hell has this guy done to this club 
Incredible and astonishing season do far when you factor in what a nightmare the past 2 or 3 years have been.
Incredible and astonishing season do far when you factor in what a nightmare the past 2 or 3 years have been.
That was a terrible Milan team with two superstar players. And guys like KPB and Nocerino (lol) playing about 10 levels higher than their actual ability. We had the much better overall squad at the time for sure.
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I call it drunk whore syndrome, attention seeking at its crassest
Beppe and Paratici made a series of what were, in hindsight, brilliant transfers that summer, but no one had any idea that a washed up Pirlo would be the best CM in football in 2011-12, no one had any idea that Vidal would go from very good CM to top 5 CM in football. No one had any idea that's Lichtsteiner would turn into a WC RB, and Barza would become a WC CB. No one had any idea that an attack led by Matri and Vucinic could compete with Milan's Zlatan, Napoli's Cavani, Inter's Milito, etc. Beppe and Paratici brought in half a team between January 2011 and Summer 2011 mercatos. Without spending more than like 20m on any single player. And pretty much every Juve fan's best hope was for a CL spot because of this.
Now, some of those above things may have happened with any decent coach... a couple of them. And we may have finished in a CL spot. But for Conte to turn all those unknowns into gold that season and go undefeated was an absolute masterpiece of coaching, both tactically and motivationally.
You can find some of his personality traits obnoxious, some of his statements quite ridiculous, his later stubbornness infuriating at times... but downplaying the incredible things he achieved in his 3 years as coach here is beyond stupid.
Now, some of those above things may have happened with any decent coach... a couple of them. And we may have finished in a CL spot. But for Conte to turn all those unknowns into gold that season and go undefeated was an absolute masterpiece of coaching, both tactically and motivationally.
You can find some of his personality traits obnoxious, some of his statements quite ridiculous, his later stubbornness infuriating at times... but downplaying the incredible things he achieved in his 3 years as coach here is beyond stupid.
Very very very few coaches in the last 15 years could have done what Conte did in his first year here. In fact, the only one that I can think of that could have done it, would have been a young Mourinho.
The question that remains, and will always remain, is what if.
What if Conte didn't leave after 3 seasons. What kind of squad would we have had, and what could he have done with it.
Would the quality of players brought in ( and sold) in the past 4 years be similar to what has been done since he left? It's very possible. There would have been star signings for sure. The quality and the spending was trending upwards when he left. No reason to think it would have plateaued.
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And it's one thing to debate as to who the better coach is, but it takes a special kind of stupid to downplay what Conte did here, especially in his first year
The question that remains, and will always remain, is what if.
What if Conte didn't leave after 3 seasons. What kind of squad would we have had, and what could he have done with it.
Would the quality of players brought in ( and sold) in the past 4 years be similar to what has been done since he left? It's very possible. There would have been star signings for sure. The quality and the spending was trending upwards when he left. No reason to think it would have plateaued.
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And it's one thing to debate as to who the better coach is, but it takes a special kind of stupid to downplay what Conte did here, especially in his first year
Well that ability is diminishing recently, Beppe started out like a genius, but during the Allegri years he's slowed down a lot imo.
My favorite deal of his was selling Matri to Milan for 11m and bringing in Tevez for 9m. Funniest thing, Galliani and the entire Milan fanbase had been fapping to Tevez for years and then he joins us and we send Matri the flop their way
My favorite deal of his was selling Matri to Milan for 11m and bringing in Tevez for 9m. Funniest thing, Galliani and the entire Milan fanbase had been fapping to Tevez for years and then he joins us and we send Matri the flop their way
Well that ability is diminishing recently, Beppe started out like a genius, but during the Allegri years he's slowed down a lot imo.
My favorite deal of his was selling Matri to Milan for 11m and bringing in Tevez for 9m. Funniest thing, Galliani and the entire Milan fanbase had been fapping to Tevez for years and then he joins us and we send Matri the flop their way
My favorite deal of his was selling Matri to Milan for 11m and bringing in Tevez for 9m. Funniest thing, Galliani and the entire Milan fanbase had been fapping to Tevez for years and then he joins us and we send Matri the flop their way
Since Conte left, we went from having a very good team to a superpower and one of the top 4 teams in Europe. Yes, we’ve sold some big players along the way, but he’s always re-upped the team well and our depth this year is ridiculous. Strongest squad we’ve had since the Capello days.
the leaps in quality we made in Marrotta's first years were way bigger with way less resources. I'm not saying he's doing bad, but he's not fully living up to his standards lately 
He done an amazing job shedding the club of the bidoni and lowering the average age of the squad, and signing some great free agents (Pirlo) and upcoming future superstars (Vidal). It’s a real cliche, but it’s hard to improve this Juventus squad. Maybe only in the RB and CM areas, but everywhere else we are rock solid and loaded with quality.
It was easier for us to make leaps in quality when you see the utter shit he inherited from Secco to start with 
He done an amazing job shedding the club of the bidoni and lowering the average age of the squad, and signing some great free agents (Pirlo) and upcoming future superstars (Vidal).
It’s a real cliche, but it’s hard to improve this Juventus squad. Maybe only in the RB and CM areas, but everywhere else we are rock solid and loaded with quality.
He done an amazing job shedding the club of the bidoni and lowering the average age of the squad, and signing some great free agents (Pirlo) and upcoming future superstars (Vidal). It’s a real cliche, but it’s hard to improve this Juventus squad. Maybe only in the RB and CM areas, but everywhere else we are rock solid and loaded with quality.
