Antonio Conte (16 Viewers)

[Raz]

The only thing he is is a greasy snake that will wiggle and do anything that it's best for him, he will lie and cheat and disregard any commitment he made to anyone.

He would forgive a person who just seconds ago shitted on his face if he could just get those 100 euros to that restaurant, that's how forgiving he is.

 

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[Hist]

The only thing he is is a greasy snake that will wiggle and do anything that it's best for him, he will lie and cheat and disregard any commitment he made to anyone.

He would forgive a person who just seconds ago $#@!ted on his face if he could just get those 100 euros to that restaurant, that's how forgiving he is.

Not really. He told the club he wanted to leave at the end of the season. They insisted that he takes more time deciding and to inform them of the final decision in pre-season. He followed their instructions and did just that. If your point is that he had one more year on his contract, I'd say so did Tevez, Vidal and practically every player that didnt leave on a bosman. In llorente's case we actually didn't honor our commitment and forced the player out

He also didn't leave for money because he could have probably made more at club level in the EPL or something or could have just asked for a pay raise from Juve who clearly wanted him to continue. He also went to a much inferior squad with more difficult targets. So your 100 euros comment makes no sense on either interpretation be it he left for money or he left for an easier challenge.

Finally, he again probably doesnt see it as a witchhunt against him personally. He could have taken other jobs, with easier challenges and better money. Practically every good EPL coach at a half decent team makes more money than he is. If he did see it as a witch hunt then he is fucking Ghandi.

 

[Azzurri7]

No one blamed him for not using wingers, he was blaming everyone for not having wingers.

 

[Seven]

Why do you want to get banned?

Why should he banned? Imo it's common courtesy to remove all dicks from your mouth when speaking. @Fred has issues with this too and it really bugs me.

 

[Raz]

Not really. He told the club he wanted to leave at the end of the season. They insisted that he takes more time deciding and to inform them of the final decision in pre-season. He followed their instructions and did just that. If your point is that he had one more year on his contract, I'd say so did Tevez, Vidal and practically every player that didnt leave on a bosman. In llorente's case we actually didn't honor our commitment and forced the player out

He also didn't leave for money because he could have probably made more at club level in the EPL or something or could have just asked for a pay raise from Juve who clearly wanted him to continue. He also went to a much inferior squad with more difficult targets. So your 100 euros comment makes no sense on either interpretation be it he left for money or he left for an easier challenge.

Finally, he again probably doesnt see it as a witchhunt against him personally. He could have taken other jobs, with easier challenges and better money. Practically every good EPL coach at a half decent team makes more money than he is. If he did see it as a witch hunt then he is fucking Ghandi.

Haha, no one wanted him, with his horrible europe showings. Anyway, the next club he will manage will get burned and when that happens I will drink to that happily.

 

[Hist]

Haha, no one wanted him, with his horrible europe showings. Anyway, the next club he will manage will get burned and when that happens I will drink to that happily.

Man Klopp got his team almost relegated and was thrashed in Europe and he was still wanted and currently earns 7 mill GBP. One poor European showing, especially with the circumstances in Galata, on an otherwise extremely successful tenure would not move teams that hire the like of Rodgers, Wenger, Pellegrini and Pochettino as coaches. Conte now (on his 'expensive' contract with italy) makes as much as everton's martinez.

Plus, after that poor european campaign, JUVE wanted him to stay and put the whole preseason at risk by telling him to decide in preseason if he will continue. You do trust agnelli, nedved and marotta's judgment on Conte's qualities don't you? If he was such an unwanted mediocre coach that you make him out to be, why did Juve management want him to stay so badly when Allegri was jobless and available?

 

[Raz]

What circumstanses in Gala? We were shit, we were shit even before gala, game we were shit in europe and that's that, all the circumstances you need to know about that season.

Extremely sucessful tenure... yeah ok, we will have to wait and see how he fails in england or whatever else place he chooses (hopefuly inter or milan). It will be good time when he fails so miserably that no one else will want him and he will come back begging us to take him as an assistant or whatever janitor place is left vacant.



Telling him to decide in preseason... maybe they asked him to decide after few matches, but being such a good and honest man he even did us a favor and left in preseason. Yeah, definitely true.

 

[Ocelot]

What circumstanses in Gala? We were shit, we were shit even before gala, game we were shit in europe and that's that, all the circumstances you need to know about that season.

Extremely sucessful tenure... yeah ok, we will have to wait and see how he fails in england or whatever else place he chooses (hopefuly inter or milan). It will be good time when he fails so miserably that no one else will want him and he will come back begging us to take him as an assistant or whatever janitor place is left vacant.



Telling him to decide in preseason... maybe they asked him to decide after few matches, but being such a good and honest man he even did us a favor and left in preseason. Yeah, definitely true.

Dude, that game was 90% luck. Of course you can say that we should've sealed the progression much earlier, but then you can't give Allegri any credit for progressing last season either, you put a snowstorm on that last game vs. Atletico and it'd be a coin toss too.

 

[Azzurri7]

Seriously why are you defending him? He did great in Serie A, compliments to him, but he fvcked in Europe and no it's not about the Bayern and Gala match only.

He went to the Bayern match already defeated psychologically giving excuses before the match. Look at Allegri's statements before the Real and Barca's matches last year and even vs Bayern now, he made it clear no team is better than Juve, chances are 50-50 and just like he respects Bayern Juve should be feared as-well. Conte's statements against Bayern were about financial differences and how Bayern are superior and etc.

Then you have matches like Galatasaray blaming the potato field or weather, what about the Benfica Europa League match, where there financial differences with these teams? What about him instructing Caceres where to pass the ball that lead to a great Ronaldo assist?

What about him saying Juve will need at least 5 years to match Real and Barcelona?

He wasn't ready for Europe and he ran out of tactics but he can't admit it.

Stop defending him he was a failure in Europe and that's it.

 

[Ocelot]

He was mediocre in Europe for sure, but by far not as bad as he's made out to be. Criticise him for the Benfica games all you want, but a lot of the stick he gets is simply undeserved.

 

[Raz]

Seriously why are you defending him? He did great in Serie A, compliments to him, but he fvcked in Europe and no it's not about the Bayern and Gala match only.

He went to the Bayern match already defeated psychologically giving excuses before the match. Look at Allegri's statements before the Real and Barca's matches last year and even vs Bayern now, he made it clear no team is better than Juve, chances are 50-50 and just like he respects Bayern Juve should be feared as-well. Conte's statements against Bayern were about financial differences and how Bayern are superior and etc.

Then you have matches like Galatasaray blaming the potato field or weather, what about the Benfica Europa League match, where there financial differences with these teams? What about him instructing Caceres where to pass the ball that lead to a great Ronaldo assist?

What about him saying Juve will need at least 5 years to match Real and Barcelona?

He wasn't ready for Europe and he ran out of tactics but he can't admit it.

Stop defending him he was a failure in Europe and that's it.

So much effort typing that

He was shit in europe, and there are no two ways about it, from his approach to games to his general mentally weak and cowardly approach to the competition in general. bayern game was a joke, we went into the game as if already we have lost it.

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He was mediocre in Europe for sure, but by far not as bad as he's made out to be. Criticise him for the Benfica games all you want, but a lot of the stick he gets is simply undeserved.

I disagree, he simply gets too little stick.

Wait oh wait till he comes to some english epl club.. Good times.

 

[Azzurri7]

He was mediocre in Europe for sure, but by far not as bad as he's made out to be. Criticise him for the Benfica games all you want, but a lot of the stick he gets is simply undeserved.

Why not? Can you explain? Capello was heavily criticized in CL too.

FFS Ranieri with only Del Piero and Nedved after Calciopoli went on to beat Real Madrid twice and there was even more gaps financially and structurally and everything you can imagine, Chelsea suffered to knock Ranier's Juve out who went out and reached the final and won the CL if I'm not mistaken.

I don't mind if you can't win certain matches in CL but I can't stand when you're going to the match already KO and already having your excuses prepared.

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So much effort typing that

He was shit in europe, and there are no two ways about it, from his approach to games to his general mentally weak and cowardly approach to the competition in general. bayern game was a joke, we went into the game as if already we have lost it..

Here's what he said after the Bayern match APR 2013:

Italian teams/Juve have no chance of winning the Champions League for several years

"Given that two years ago we weren't even in the Europa League I have to congratulate my players for getting this far," said Conte.

"They (Bayern) were simply stronger than us and we can only congratulate them. When you're playing against one of the strongest teams in Europe it becomes difficult for everyone.

"But playing Bayern was a good opportunity to see where exactly we are compared to the big boys in Europe. Where are we, what's missing and how do we remedy it?

"We have to look elsewhere, to Spain, to England and to Germany to see what lessons we can learn.

"But if you have the money, you can buy (players) and win. Otherwise, it takes a lot of patience. Except that Allegri with little bit of luck would have won the final with even less sources.

"The way things are right now, I don't see any Italian teams winning the Champions League for the next several years."


This is one of his statements that describes how prepared mentally and tactically he was.

 

[Raz]

That is why he should get even more stick. Not even considering how he left us.

 

[Ocelot]

Meh, the importance of those comments has been significantly overblown.

Fact is that he had one pretty good season in Europe, and one with a mediocre group stage + lots of bad luck (I know it's an excuse, but a valid one), and a horrible EL-phase.

Not nearly enough to label him a failure in Europe.

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Why not? Can you explain? Capello was heavily criticized in CL too.

FFS Ranieri with only Del Piero and Nedved after Calciopoli went on to beat Real Madrid twice and there was even more gaps financially and structurally and everything you can imagine, Chelsea suffered to knock Ranier's Juve out who went out and reached the final and won the CL if I'm not mistaken.

I don't mind if you can't win certain matches in CL but I can't stand when you're going to the match already KO and already having your excuses prepared.

Capello was critizised rightfully though, he's had a much better squad than Conte & his results weren't any better.

That Real was really poor to be fair, as awesome as those games were. They hadn't progressed farther than the quarters for multiple seasons, and were destroyed by Liverpool in the round of 32 (5:0).

And no, Chelsea didn't win that season.

 

[Hist]

That is why he should get even more stick. Not even considering how he left us.

I love how you ignore all the points that were made that you never responded to.

 

[Raz]

I love how you ignore all the points that were made that you never responded to.

What points?

1. Conte did great in seria a.
2. He along with moratta and agnelli returned Juve to it's place in Italy (though conte played probably biggest or most easily accountable part in this, he was the right man at the right time).
3. He failed in europe.
4. He failed misserably mentality wise in europe.
5. He left us in a worst way he could or in a way we never thought possible from a coach that is a fan of the club.
6. And in the end he became stagnant and without ideas coach and in europe a coward.

There is nothing more to say or discuss about it, it's really that simple. It's great that he came in a time when he did and helped resurect Juventus in Italy, but after that he did nothing good at all. And if he would have left like a normal professional and a "fan" he could get stick only because of his pussy mentality in europe and his failures there. But how he left now, fuck him and hope he fails even worse wherever he goes.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What points?

1. Conte did great in seria a.
2. He along with moratta and agnelli returned Juve to it's place in Italy (though conte played probably biggest or most easily accountable part in this, he was the right man at the right time).
3. He failed in europe.
4. He failed misserably mentality wise in europe.
5. He left us in a worst way he could or in a way we never thought possible from a coach that is a fan of the club.
6. And in the end he became stagnant and without ideas coach and in europe a coward.

There is nothing more to say or discuss about it, it's really that simple.It's great that he came in a time when he did and helped resurect Juventus in Italy, but after that he did nothing good at all. And if he would have left like a normal professional and a "fan" he could get stick only because of his pussy mentality in europe and his failures there. But how he left now, fuck him and hope he fails even worse wherever he goes.

Then why you still talking about it

 

[.zero]

@Raz I'm no doctor but you seem to be suffering from some degree of butt hurt

 

[sallyinzaghi]

without conte whether we like it or not the foundations would not be laid with this current Juve. I am not so certain Allegri would've achieved as much as he did without those previous years without Conte. Yes he sucked in Europe, yes he left us (and I'm not even bitter about that - better he be honest than we suffer through seasons with an unmotivated coach) - but I am eternally grateful to the man that brought us three scudetti when we were down in the dumps. And thanks to that foundation we've soared to such great heights.

 

[edgardavids2608]

Wow I really opened up a can of worms but I really do hope he take the Chelsea job and Allegri doesnt take it. Thats really all I meant but it will be interesting to see how he does with a team like chelsea.