Antonio Conte (202 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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icemaη;4908593 said:
I was upset when he eventually left. I was angry before he left. His constant washing of dirty laundry in public got annoying. His press conferences in his final year and especially towards the end of the season was pathetic and downright disrespectful. Some people like that kind of attitude. Their justification being that his attitude showed that he cared and the management didn't. I was disgusted by it. I thought the management were very patient with him and handled it as well as they could. It did hurt when he eventually left. Looked a big void to fill. Thankfully it all worked out.
This is how things were. Do not let anyone fool you guys.
 

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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
I just disagree with all the Conte bashing and In the same wane having Allegri on a pedestal. Both guys have done their jobs and rating one shouldn't constitute berating the other. Conte was a great man manager and less of a technician by the book which perhaps limited him in Europe, and Allegri, while a more astute tactician in the true sense of the word may not be able to repeat a season like this one because of his comparatively limited ability as a motivator. Hypothetical at this point but this is where we are with these two.

Conte could repeat domestic success based solely on that and I am forever grateful to him for pulling us out of the kind of rut that was getting detrimental for the club where even our champions like Del Piero, Buffon and co. couldn't salvage the situation. It needed his spirit to uplift the environment, we could've easily ended up like Liverpool have, with a few years in the wilderness.

Unfortunately though, Conte's strength is also his weakness. Impulsive and aggressive to the core, I think his fear of failure made him take some pretty short sighted decisions in the interest of his own career path and that of Juves. The way I see it, the serie a points record made it difficult for him to see past. And I think in a year he will regret having joined the Nazionale. Once again though, he was fully entitled to make the decision but I think it could've just been handled a little better with all involved. The same goes for him constantly laying the blame on the management for their inability to get him the players he wanted. I agreed with his need to take the club to the next level given we had achieved ahead of the curve, but I disagreed with the method of trying to go about it by making it ugly in the press. It was his way of creating an exit point for himself when things didn't work out.

Having said all that, he left me with more good memories than bad and I am forever thankful to him and can only salute his spirit for being what it is.

Allegri, on the other hand, has been great at adapting to the environment he found himself in. And has set himself up a great launchpad to be a coach who could give Juve another dimension in Europe, which not many treat coaches managed at their time in the club. And I'd really like to see that. I actually mentioned at the start of the season, that while I was unsure about another scudetto triumph, I saw him take us far in Europe and I'm glad that has been the case. Winning this scudetto would also perhaps buy him a couple of years without the pressure of that success via a vid cracking the CL code. This could well be the kind of marriage the Old Lady has been waiting for.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Lets just say it like this

In 2011 we absolutely needed Conte, who did a massive job in creating the base

In 2014 (as we see now) we absolutely needed Allegri to progress on that base



Lets be happy they were signed in that order
 

Juve_fanatic

Second coolest member!
Apr 5, 2006
7,618
Lets just not fuck up next season and buy good players this summer. We have the money now. We came out of the financial crisis, so its time we open our wallets and dig deep. Our management showed many times that you can find good, solid, even (potential) WC players for low prices, but we need to spend big now, its our chance to reclaim our rightful place in Europe. We have the quality, but we need to take this shit to another level next season. Transfer bombs, thats what i want!
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,402
Lets just say it like this

In 2011 we absolutely needed Conte, who did a massive job in creating the base

In 2014 (as we see now) we absolutely needed Allegri to progress on that base



Lets be happy they were signed in that order
Yep

Conte is like a guy who invented something, Allegri is the guy who came along and seen the invention, that he could never have invented himself. But knew exactly how to improve on it

You need both to get the optimal results. Allegri put his own touches on Conte's team. Something Conte was unwilling to change himself.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
It wasn't as much as being unwilling as it was being limited, and somewhere inhibited by the fear of loss. In so many ways, winning so much so quickly went on to hinder Conte's ceiling as coach in my view.
 

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