Garcia had other issues. Such as Benatia being sold, and Castan being out for the season, and Sabatini making colossal errors on the transfer market. Now, I don't Garcia is a very good coach, he's very inflexible tactically, much the same as Conte.
Conte didn't have any starters sold on him in his entire tenure at Juventus. He had fantastic continuity amongst players. Each summer he was here, Marotta and Paratici brought new starting XI players for him, that improved our squad quality.
First season starters brought in = 5: Barzagli, Lichtsteiner, Pirlo, Vidal, Vucinic Key rotation players = 3: Matri, Cacares, Giach
Second season starters brought in = 1: Asamoah Key Rotation players = 2: Giovinco, Isla
Third season starters brought in = 2: Llorente, Tevez Key Rotation players = 1: Ogbonna
Looking at his third year here. Our management improved 7 of our starting 11, from the season before he arrived.
Barzagli, Lichtsteiner, Asamoah, Vidal, Pirlo, Llorente, Tevez. All key starters in the last year Conte was here. All improvements on what was here in 2010. All brought in by our management. Conte was blessed to have such talented directors backing him.
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If he thought these things, and thought our management didn't have the proper ambition to win in Europe, and that this squad wasn't good enough... then he's a moron. A complete and utter imbecile. Delusional nutter. This squad easily had the talent to do what teams like Dortmund, Atletico, Chelsea(2013) have done. Our squad from last season, and even more so this season is easily good enough to win CL. Are we a favourite? No. But we're easily within the realm of possibility.
So if he actually quit because he thought we weren't good enough. He's a total moron.
If he quit because he didn't think he was good enough or experienced enough to take this team any further, than he should have said that, rather than throwing frequent hints that it wasn't him who was limited, but our players and squad and management that were limited.
THat's disgraceful $#@!ing behaviour from a Juventus coach. Egotistical, narcissistic and pathetic. And I was one of his biggest defenders, even with regards to his European performances, because I thought he was motivated to prove just how good a manager he was, and how he would learn from his experiences and failures in Europe and grow from it. Instead, the club legend, acted disgracefully towards the club. And that's much worse than someone with no affiliation at all behaving that way. He owes the club and its fans an apology for his behaviour. And I will see him in a far more negative light until this is offered.
Conte didn't have any starters sold on him in his entire tenure at Juventus. He had fantastic continuity amongst players. Each summer he was here, Marotta and Paratici brought new starting XI players for him, that improved our squad quality.
First season starters brought in = 5: Barzagli, Lichtsteiner, Pirlo, Vidal, Vucinic Key rotation players = 3: Matri, Cacares, Giach
Second season starters brought in = 1: Asamoah Key Rotation players = 2: Giovinco, Isla
Third season starters brought in = 2: Llorente, Tevez Key Rotation players = 1: Ogbonna
Looking at his third year here. Our management improved 7 of our starting 11, from the season before he arrived.
Barzagli, Lichtsteiner, Asamoah, Vidal, Pirlo, Llorente, Tevez. All key starters in the last year Conte was here. All improvements on what was here in 2010. All brought in by our management. Conte was blessed to have such talented directors backing him.
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If he thought these things, and thought our management didn't have the proper ambition to win in Europe, and that this squad wasn't good enough... then he's a moron. A complete and utter imbecile. Delusional nutter. This squad easily had the talent to do what teams like Dortmund, Atletico, Chelsea(2013) have done. Our squad from last season, and even more so this season is easily good enough to win CL. Are we a favourite? No. But we're easily within the realm of possibility.
So if he actually quit because he thought we weren't good enough. He's a total moron.
If he quit because he didn't think he was good enough or experienced enough to take this team any further, than he should have said that, rather than throwing frequent hints that it wasn't him who was limited, but our players and squad and management that were limited.
THat's disgraceful $#@!ing behaviour from a Juventus coach. Egotistical, narcissistic and pathetic. And I was one of his biggest defenders, even with regards to his European performances, because I thought he was motivated to prove just how good a manager he was, and how he would learn from his experiences and failures in Europe and grow from it. Instead, the club legend, acted disgracefully towards the club. And that's much worse than someone with no affiliation at all behaving that way. He owes the club and its fans an apology for his behaviour. And I will see him in a far more negative light until this is offered.
Conte did misevaluate the potential of our squad. A couple of pages back. I said even his 2012 season (same squad, younger pogba, no tevez and llorente) shows that the squad can obviously do better than 2013. Had we had an easy draw in the QF we would have made it into the semis too. My evaluation of the squad has always been one that should regularly be in the QF/SF stages in Europe and retain Serie A UNLESS we have a difficult draw like bayern.
Having said that I disagree about what you said with regards to Dortmund, Chelsea (2013) and ATM.
All three of these teams were massively punching above their weight and over-performing in their spectacular European runs. It took sublime genius from Klopp and simeone to reach those finals and insane luck for Chelsea to make it thus far. It is very unreasonable to demand from any coach to do what they did. It is possible, sure but to demand and expect it is something else entirely as its extremely improbable.
What we could reasonable demand from Conte and now Allegri is Serie A and QF/SF barring incredibly difficult draws in the last 16. If we were playing any of the giants instead of Monaco I'd be perfectly content with losing in the QF.
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this, even under conte we played toe to toe with real madrid with the right approach, yet somehow he still convinced himself that the team was not good enough -and even not good enough for europa league-? what kind of champion thought like that?
I think he had his eyes on winning the trophy though not just doing better than 2013. With regards to that he is right. Give him Madrid's squad and he'll obviously do better than with Juve's squad than with Siena's.
