Antonio Conte (172 Viewers)

[Ragazza]

Yes, it is a piece of cake if you are called Juventus. Every team has their weak periods, like we did after 2006, but winning the Scudetto in itself is not as huge an accomplishment as Conte lovers make it out to be. Juve have always won Italian titles and will continue to do it with or without Conte. Europe is the real benchmark and Conte has proved time and time again that he's not good enough there. Which is why he is already making excuses(it is end of May ffs) for next season, he knows that he will fail again.

He made this Juve? Juve is Juve with or without Conte, Juve made Conte actually, I bet that if he went to any other club he will fail badly.

You are naive if you think the coach has nothing to do with Juve's success. Put Delneri as your coach again and see if you still win titles or get any further in the CL. Conte's main flaw is tactical stubbornness, but he's still a young coach and it's a learning process.

Hard to say if he'd be as successful at another big club, it'd probably depend on the club, its philosophy and the players he would have at his disposal (for example, I couldn't see him coaching Barcelona). But that would have nothing to do with what he's done at Juve.

 

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[j0ker]

Yes, it is a piece of cake if you are called Juventus. Every team has their weak periods, like we did after 2006, but winning the Scudetto in itself is not as huge an accomplishment as Conte lovers make it out to be. Juve have always won Italian titles and will continue to do it with or without Conte. Europe is the real benchmark and Conte has proved time and time again that he's not good enough there. Which is why he is already making excuses(it is end of May ffs) for next season, he knows that he will fail again.

He made this Juve? Juve is Juve with or without Conte, Juve made Conte actually, I bet that if he went to any other club he will fail badly.

Jog on, you SI.

 

[Gep]

Give an example of a worse Juventus perofrmance in Europe that you have watched. Objectively worse.

Fulham 4 - 1 Juventus. The End.

I win.

 

[samfisher5]

Fulham 4 - 1 Juventus. The End.

I win.

It was in the EL though.

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Go back to Bulgaria, cigan.

lol the ugliest wog around speaking again.

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You are naive if you think the coach has nothing to do with Juve's success. Put Delneri as your coach again and see if you still win titles or get any further in the CL. Conte's main flaw is tactical stubbornness, but he's still a young coach and it's a learning process.

Hard to say if he'd be as successful at another big club, it'd probably depend on the club, its philosophy and the players he would have at his disposal (for example, I couldn't see him coaching Barcelona). But that would have nothing to do with what he's done at Juve.

But what is Juve's success? The CL is tthe real benchmark and I see no improvement over what it was before Conte. So what exactly has Conte achieved? The Serie A is not as prestigious as it once was.

You say his main flaw is tactical- well, that's the most important thing bro. If he is not good enough tactically, then he is not a good coach period. Btw you cannot learn to be a master tactician, you either are or you aren't and Conte certainly isn't.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Care to propose a better coach then? I can see none available tbh.

Conte knows CL group exit was a failure. The club wants to continue with him and I think it's the right thing to do.

 

[samfisher5]

Sam I don't think your bashing on Conte is warranted why... Name a coach that could win CL with our current team?

Noone can name a coach that will certainly win the CL, because that depends on a lot of factors but I can certainly name a few who will make Juve play better because they are better tacitcians (or coaches) than the overrated Conte.

1. Van Gaal, I've already explained why
2. Nevio Scala, light years ahead of Conte, although he has been out of coaching for some time, he has stated that he wants to come back. I'm sure that if Juve contact him he will say yes.
3. Allegri - not the best coach ever, but certainly a better tactician than Conte, judging by his performances in the CL(the only competition that really counts in today's football). Milan have worse players than Juve, yet they perform better in the CL, God knows why? He beat Barca 2-0 ffs and almost knocked them out, that's something that Conte can only dream of
4. Prandelli - I am interested to see how he fares in the WC, imo he is a good coach. Again not the best coach ever, but certainly better than Conte. I am not even sure if Conte can qualify Italy for a big competition ffs. (srs)
5. Vialli - remember him doing a good job at Chelsea

I can go on and on.

 

[Gep]

It was in the EL though.

Don't you start moving the fucking goal posts on me here. You asked a question, I answered. It beat your pathetic point. Regardless what competition it was. You asked for Europe, I gave you one. Oh and don't forget we took over a 3-1 lead to Craven Cottage too. Which makes it all that much worse.

 

[ZoSo]

It was in the EL though.

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lol the ugliest wog around speaking again.

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But what is Juve's success? The CL is tthe real benchmark and I see no improvement over what it was before Conte. So what exactly has Conte achieved? The Serie A is not as prestigious as it once was.

You say his main flaw is tactical- well, that's the most important thing bro. If he is not good enough tactically, then he is not a good coach period. Btw you cannot learn to be a master tactician, you either are or you aren't and Conte certainly isn't.

Go and make me some fetta you fucking gay bulgarian fuck or I will come over there and beat your ass with a lead pipe.

Actually, here's a great fucking idea. Since we are Juventus and by virtue we will win the league regardless, we should sell Vidal, Pogba, Tevez, Buffon, Pirlo and all our other good players and sign a bunch of random Serie C2 players for a massive profit. Then we can sack Conte and hire a real good coach and then win the league every season. Heck, we would even win the CL too, because we would have a good coach.

I wish I was as clued in as samfucktard5 is.

 

[Ragazza]

Allegri better than Conte.

 

[Ragazza]

But what is Juve's success? The CL is tthe real benchmark and I see no improvement over what it was before Conte. So what exactly has Conte achieved? The Serie A is not as prestigious as it once was.

You say his main flaw is tactical- well, that's the most important thing bro. If he is not good enough tactically, then he is not a good coach period. Btw you cannot learn to be a master tactician, you either are or you aren't and Conte certainly isn't.

There's a difference between being stubborn with tactics and being a poor tactician. Stubbornness can be remedied with experience. After the CL exit he knows he can't treat that competition exactly the same tactically as in the league.

The fact I'm sitting here defending your club's coach shows how wrong you are.

 

[samfisher5]

Don't you start moving the $#@!ing goal posts on me here. You asked a question, I answered. It beat your pathetic point. Regardless what competition it was. You asked for Europe, I gave you one. Oh and don't forget we took over a 3-1 lead to Craven Cottage too. Which makes it all that much worse.

Actually, you start moving goal posts. I am saying that it happened in the EL, which is not an important enough competition. But I can say that our perfromances as a whole in the EL this year was just as pathetic. So what has Conte achieved exactly? If we continue being a weak team in Europe.

Also our team back in 2010 was not as good as it is now. Nobody was saying back then that Juve had a great team or a great coach. We've never been as pathetic in the CL as we are under Conte sice I can remember.

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There's a difference between being stubborn with tactics and being a poor tactician. Stubbornness can be remedied with experience. After the CL exit he knows he can't treat that competition exactly the same tactically as in the league.

And how do you know that? Because I can bet that we will look exactly the same next season. See what my point is? Conte supporters rely on hypothetical 'facts' and information that are only convenient to Conte. He hasn't proved at all up until now that he can make Juve play like a strong European team, we are not talking about concrete results, just about our overall game in the CL.

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Allegri better than Conte.

Yes, he is, Europe porves it. Do you think that Conte would be as 'successful' at Milan too? And if yes, what makes you believe that?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Go and make me some fetta you fucking gay bulgarian fuck or I will come over there and beat your ass with a lead pipe.

Actually, here's a great fucking idea. Since we are Juventus and by virtue we will win the league regardless, we should sell Vidal, Pogba, Tevez, Buffon, Pirlo and all our other good players and sign a bunch of random Serie C2 players for a massive profit. Then we can sack Conte and hire a real good coach and then win the league every season. Heck, we would even win the CL too, because we would have a good coach.

I wish I was as clued in as samfucktard5 is.

 

[Klovn]

Samfisher5

Are you actually serious?

 

[digitalbash]

Samfisher5

Are you actually serious?

I think he is.

He is disappointed. The way he is dealing with it by criticizing Conte in that way is wrong though.

There is nothing wrong with criticizing Conte, we all want more.

 

[Ragazza]

And how do you know that? Because I can bet that we will look exactly the same next season. See what my point is? Conte supporters rely on hypothetical 'facts' and information that are only convenient to Conte. He hasn't proved at all up until now that he can make Juve play like a strong European team, we are not talking about concrete results, just about our overall game in the CL.

Of course I don't know for sure, but it makes more sense than what you're saying. You act like you have a crystal ball that can tell for sure that Conte will fail in Europe again. If you crash out early again next season, then maybe your argument will have some substance.

Yes, he is, Europe porves it. Do you think that Conte would be as 'successful' at Milan too? And if yes, what makes you believe that?

Oh yes, tell me about all the CL titles Allegri has won.

2010-11: R16
2011-12: QF
2012-13: R16
2013-14: R16 (yes, I know this was technically Seedorf, but he had taken over Allegri's mess)

Yes, great European record there. And don't tell me it has to do with the players, because regardless there's still no proof Allegri would do better in Europe with better players either. Not to mention another big part of coaching is man management, something Allegri lacks greatly and Conte appears to excel at.

 

[Klovn]

I think he is.

He is disappointed. The way he is dealing with it by criticizing Conte in that way is wrong though.

There is nothing wrong with criticizing Conte, we all want more.

It's alright to criticize Conte for the embarssing Group Stages exit. But that guy actually criticize Conte for his achivements in Italy.

 

[Vlad]

Noone can name a coach that will certainly win the CL, because that depends on a lot of factors but I can certainly name a few who will make Juve play better because they are better tacitcians (or coaches) than the overrated Conte.

1. Van Gaal, I've already explained why
2. Nevio Scala, light years ahead of Conte, although he has been out of coaching for some time, he has stated that he wants to come back. I'm sure that if Juve contact him he will say yes.
3. Allegri - not the best coach ever, but certainly a better tactician than Conte, judging by his performances in the CL(the only competition that really counts in today's football). Milan have worse players than Juve, yet they perform better in the CL, God knows why? He beat Barca 2-0 ffs and almost knocked them out, that's something that Conte can only dream of
4. Prandelli - I am interested to see how he fares in the WC, imo he is a good coach. Again not the best coach ever, but certainly better than Conte. I am not even sure if Conte can qualify Italy for a big competition ffs. (srs)
5. Vialli - remember him doing a good job at Chelsea

I can go on and on.

Nevio Scala, is this guy even alive still? Vialli, Allegri?

Samfisher5

Are you actually serious?

He's dead serious

 

[samfisher5]

Nevio Scala, is this guy even alive still? Vialli, Allegri?

He's dead serious

You are such a dumb, idiotic, pathetic human being. Where are your facts, you arguments, you opinion. There's nothing, you can only insult or 'laugh' and nothing more which shows that I am completely right and that you are

 

[Deep C]

looks like someone put their big boy pants on today

 

[ZoSo]

what kind of music is that you fucking fag