Antonio Conte (218 Viewers)

[Raz]

Very unfair to the guy.
Not only he has had to compete with oil teams in the league but also their net spend over the last decade has been about a miserly 10m euros.

It would be actually a good argument, if it wasn't made for Wenger. Guy lost the plot some time ago, even @Fred would agree with that.

 

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[Sjaban]

Totally unacceptable interview by Conte, but unfortunately it's not uncommon. Every time we lose or draw, Conte complains about how we deserved to win instead of learning from the loss and the mistakes made. I hardly see any tactical improvement from him at all. He got schooled by Jesus, who tactically outsmarted him yesterday. Even though he's a complete fucking nutjob, Jorge Jesus does know how to organise his team and balance shit out, even when he was down to 10-9 men..

 

[ravipiero]

Milan 2012? yeah, we had no competition at all. this years Roma will break the record for most points by a second placed in history of Serie A and they would have been champions in most seasons. very uncompetitive leaague, i agree...

Exactly.

I'm quite baffled with the notion some people keep saying here about conte learning from his experience.

learning about what exactly?

how to motivate? uh isn't that was supposedly one of his strength already?

playing high pressing football? he already done that in the 1st season.

making the team he coached play anything other than 3-5-2? oh but wasn't he known for his 4-2-4 earlier in his career and that he also made juve played with 4-3-3?

learning about european competition? what exactly does this mean? this is honestly an over used over hyped exaggerated notion often said here... many people make it seem like as if european competition is some kind of alien's football that is completely alien and in stark contrast with the national league juventus yearly compete in it's just bull$#@! really... don't forget that conte himself played on those european competitions, to give you other perspective, mourinho was a provincial player who never played in european competition or any of the top leagues yet we didn't see mourinho being 'alien' to top competitions and needed 'to learn' now, doesn't this learning to compete in europe excuse actually totally ridiculous?

There were already few examples given, by looking at SAF, ancelotti, wenger, capello and many other. So yeah learning and experience are important. Also to add, this is conte's second season playing in Europe for his entire career.



The last time we won champions league is 18 years ago. Between that we've been coached by Lippi, Ancelotti, and Capello all with better squad than Conte has now, yet they also failed.

I don't know how it can be generalized that we played bad this season. Sure there are some matches that we don't perform well but overall this is a good season. We had the most shot on target in CL during the group stage (CMIIW), and I also believe that we top other statistics in seri-a also. We just need some more mentality, luck, and swuad depth and it will be a better year in Europe next season. We were also having fatigue problem playing every 3 days in the second part of the season. Isla, padoin, peluso, osvaldo, quag, vucinic is no where near our first team, leaving a very risky choice to rotate player. Even roma and napoli had better subs than us.

Two years ago both Manchester team failed in group stage, and also failed in Europa league. Every manager had their failed competition. So what's the big deal?

No Juve's manager has won 3 consecutive scudetti in a very long time. But its just a stupid, uncompetitive competition. So yeah, nobody cares.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

fuck you haters I can't believe how fucking unlucky we were

also fee we were gased towards the end

 

[j0ker]

We obviously underachieved in Europe this season, and aren't good enough to compete yet.

But some of the comments here

I expect us to do some very much needed reinforcements in the summer from the board, and a change in formation and attitude from Conte.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

also fee we were gased towards the end

im quite astounded by the numerous attacks on Conte following last night's exit. I guarantee you if Juve had scraped a 1-0 win the usual suspects will moan at how boring we are or how he's using pussy tactics blah blah. no pleasing the fickle! some of you don't realise how fortunate we actually are to have someone like Conte at the helm and have clearly forgotten the shit years we've had in the past. yeah so what if Juve are storming the league which is considered weak, i don't see how that is Conte's fault? on the face of it Conte has taken Juve to a higher level each season, just look at the records he's breaking each season. our time in Europe will come soon enough, unfortunately to say this year just wasn't meant to be but it's not like Conte is a 70 something year old coach who will never break his mould. I said it before and i'll say it again, I hope our experience in the EL has helped the team and management alike of what is required in europe and more importantly knock out competition, I'm sure the experience will prove important for the future.

 

[JuveJay]

Totally unacceptable interview by Conte, but unfortunately it's not uncommon. Every time we lose or draw, Conte complains about how we deserved to win instead of learning from the loss and the mistakes made. I hardly see any tactical improvement from him at all. He got schooled by Jesus, who tactically outsmarted him yesterday. Even though he's a complete fucking nutjob, Jorge Jesus does know how to organise his team and balance shit out, even when he was down to 10-9 men..

Doing it with 10 and 9 men when trying not to concede is not even a noteworthy approach, a trained chimp can stick everyone behind the ball. At that point it comes down to individuals holding their shape and winning individual battles.

For the other 60 minutes of the game I didn't see Juventus as inferior to Benfica. First half Benfica played to hold possession and nick a goal and Juventus were the better team for the 45, second half they had sporadic counters whilst trying not to concede.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

glancing over the past few pages, seriously how can some of you call yourselves fans and the gall to attack the architect of our success with all impunity, you really remind me of the barca fans who turned on messi coz he didnt perform against atleti Forza the mister and fuck all you whiny crybabies you will never know what it is to be real football fans. I suggest you start cheering for Real, perfect fit.

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im quite astounded by the numerous attacks on Conte following last night's exit. I guarantee you if Juve had scraped a 1-0 win the usual suspects will moan at how boring we are or how he's using pussy tactics blah blah. no pleasing the fickle! some of you don't realise how fortunate we actually are to have someone like Conte at the helm and have clearly forgotten the shit years we've had in the past. yeah so what if Juve are storming the league which is considered weak, i don't see how that is Conte's fault? on the face of it Conte has taken Juve to a higher level each season, just look at the records he's breaking each season. our time in Europe will come soon enough, unfortunately to say this year just wasn't meant to be but it's not like Conte is a 70 something year old coach who will never break his mould. I said it before and i'll say it again, I hope our experience in the EL has helped the team and management alike of what is required in europe and more importantly knock out competition, I'm sure the experience will prove important for the future.

nothing but love for you bro, a true real fan

 

[Raz]

glancing over the past few pages, seriously how can some of you call yourselves fans and the gall to attack the architect of our success with all impunity, you really remind me of the barca fans who turned on messi coz he didnt perform against atleti Forza the mister and fuck all you whiny crybabies you will never know what it is to be real football fans. I suggest you start cheering for Real, perfect fit.

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nothing but love for you bro, a true real fan

What did you think about the post comments by Conte? I'm not going against Conte and I think it would be disaster to lose him, but the comments after match how we were better and lost only because of negativ approach of benfica nad bad refereeing were terrible imo.

 

[JuveJay]

What bad refereeing was he referring to in particular? I'm not a fan of Mark 'look at me' Clattenburg, but I didn't think he did much wrong last night.

I also thought Juventus were better than Benfica, although it was difficult to fairly judge the second half.

 

[Raz]

What bad refereeing was he referring to in particular? I'm not a fan of Mark 'look at me' Clattenburg, but I didn't think he did much wrong last night.

I also thought Juventus were better than Benfica, although it was difficult to fairly judge the second half.

I don't know, he talked about some possible penalty and the way ref disrupted the flow of the game by giving a lot of fouls and letting people roll around i think.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What did you think about the post comments by Conte? I'm not going against Conte and I think it would be disaster to lose him, but the comments after match how we were better and lost only because of negativ approach of benfica nad bad refereeing were terrible imo.

First of all conte's priority is to protect the psyche of his players who still need to win the scudetto, so everything said needs to be taken in that context.
i dont think we were better but we defo did more to score than them, benfica played their hearts out, but they really were negative and tried constantly to break our rhythm by either initiating fights or faking injuries, the ref didnt make major mistakes in the game but he definitely played into their hands as far as sportsmanship behavior, IMO we lost out to lima's moment of magic, pirlo nearly had one to cancel it out, but with all moments of magic sometimes it happens other times it doesnt.

 

[j0ker]

Those excuses were pretty pathetic, but I'm sure that's not what he told the players. He probably threatened them with death.

 

[Raz]

Those excuses were pretty pathetic, but I'm sure that's not what he told the players. He probably threatened them with death.

Who knows, maybe he told them that they were good but just unlucky, no one ones really. But f he told them that I'm dissapointed a bit. He needs to see that we need a different style in Europe then we play in Serie A.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Those excuses were pretty pathetic, but I'm sure that's not what he told the players. He probably threatened them with death.

cant let the press rip the team apart when we have a crucial game on monday

 

[JuveJay]

I'm sure Conte really doesn't mind what people think of him, and if it helps keep the belief of the team going, that they believe people are against them, then they will keep working hard. He's hardly the first or last coach who will do this. Mourinho has made a career out of creating a siege mentality.

 

[Raz]

cant let the press rip the team apart when we have a crucial game on monday

Crucial, sort of really. We have scudetto in the bag for some time now. Anyway, looking forward to next season and see what Conte will show us.

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I'm sure Conte really doesn't mind what people think of him, and if it helps keep the belief of the team going, that they believe people are against them, then they will keep working hard. He's hardly the first or last coach who will do this. Mourinho has made a career out of creating a siege mentality.

Probably, still the comments were shameful.

 

[JuveJay]

I don't know, he talked about some possible penalty and the way ref disrupted the flow of the game by giving a lot of fouls and letting people roll around i think.

Benfica were obviously time wasting and acting, but unfortunately the referee can't do much when someone goes down holding their head. Clattenburg twice laughed at Markovic for diving, but we did have some strong physical challenges going in. Obviously it suited the Portuguese to roll around and disrupt the game, it's something they are good at.

The 'penalty' looked like nothing, but I've seen them given when the hand is outstretched like that. Anyway, little moments can clearly change a result, but you can't depend on them.

 

[samfisher5]

how long did it take SAF at United to win his first title and then win in Europe?

Football back then was fiercely competitive as a whole so you can't really compare it with today's version. Also Ferguson took a United team which was far from what it is today in terms of the magnitude of the club. You can say they were not a giant back then and Ferguson transformed them into one. So that in itself is very impressive, but it is totally different to Conte's situation at Juve. He inherited a Juve side after two average seasons, but in an average league and then won that league undefeated. But it was still Juve, whereas Man U in the 80's were not the Man U you know. Let's not forget that Ferguson had achieved European success with a small side like Aberdeen before he took the United job.

Still, Ferguson has always been a bit overrated imo.

 

[Raz]

The 'penalty' looked like nothing, but I've seen them given when the hand is outstretched like that. Anyway, little moments can clearly change a result, but you can't depend on them.

That's the thing for some time now and in his post match conference it only got a stamp of approval. It seems he was playing for those little things. This approach needs to change if we want to be succesful in Europe.