Antonio Conte (145 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Did I say otherwise? All I am saying he needs to learn from this, and adapt/adopt a different philosophy in Europe. Learn to be more flexible and not as stubborn. IF he doesn't, we might as well label him Capello 2.0
I don't think the philosophy itself is wrong, Conte's philosophy is some what suited to European football more so than capello's but it goes back to what i said some time ago at how i believe marotta failed to deliver on certain targets, namely a winger who we were strongly linked with since the summer yet none arrived.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
We did not play 4-3-3, we played 4-3-2-1.

Marchisio and Tevez are no wingers and never will be


no serious team still plays 4-3-3
Okay, but the question still stands.

3-5-2 is a fully defensive formation. Why did we use this against the weak sides when we saw how much more fluid we are using your 4-3-2-1?

This is a serious failure on Conte's behalf.

Did he not see the ineffectiveness of the 3-5-2, or should we call it the 5-3-2 against Bayern last year?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The reason is simple.

Teams that dont have world class flanks, are easely locked up with the 3-5-2.

Its a simple domminant formation, that just needs adaptation in case of 4-2-3-1
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
The reason is simple.

Teams that dont have world class flanks, are easely locked up with the 3-5-2.

Its a simple domminant formation, that just needs adaptation in case of 4-2-3-1
Well for one, I saw Eboue making multiple runs down the line outpacing our flanks.

And for another, our attack is slow and predictable in a 3-5-2, it's hardly dominant. It's a low risk defensive formation that produces little in attack.
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
The reason is simple.

Teams that dont have world class flanks, are easely locked up with the 3-5-2.

Its a simple domminant formation, that just needs adaptation in case of 4-2-3-1
neutralizing, locking up opponents etc those are the weaklings' defensive mentality in any kind of competition.

you can go all defensive against muhammad ali for 12 rounds neutralizing all his punches yet the jury will hand the win to ali if you can't even scratch him.

obsessing with such mentality just show how a loser you are.

imposing your play > neutralizing your opponents.

we did that in the 1st 6 months of conte's reign, so why we haven't done it against since? it's definitely conte's fault with his own mentality and approach.

and no, blunders we had at the start of this season also conte's fault, it's his job to prepare for the most part the same team he already had past 2.5 years, to suddenly found his players blundering right and left meant something went wrong.

the lack of wingers excuse can't hold because we still have such players, there's also nothing that prevent conte from using 4-3-2-1, we have quite many flexible players.

another thing is the way conte set up vidal marchisio CM always be so far ahead of the pitch (and also these so called defensive wingers but placed far ahead on the pitch while still laughably unable to give any significant offensive threat?!?) easily exposing 3 CBs and one regista for counter attacks, the exact same thing I've seen since the conversion to 3-5-2, too easily read if the opponent did little study to this team, and some did, many times we conceded in such similar way it's just not funny, such glaring weakness should be addressed long ago and simple tactical changes should've been made, but conte didn't do that.
 

JuveSardu

Senior Member
Nov 27, 2013
948
Damn right. Oh wow we were eliminated from the CL...disband the club, sack Conte and the players :cry:

Man the $#@! up woosies. There's still three trophies to play for this season. Bring them on.
3 trophys... Serie a, yea woah tharts gonna be hard, coppa italia,dont need to say anything, only reason i want conte to actually take the el serious is to help with the coefficents


Oh and not to mentian the rest of serie a, italy, and europe are laughing at us
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
neutralizing, locking up opponents etc those are the weaklings' defensive mentality in any kind of competition.

you can go all defensive against muhammad ali for 12 rounds neutralizing all his punches yet the jury will hand the win to ali if you can't even scratch him.

obsessing with such mentality just show how a loser you are.

imposing your play > neutralizing your opponents.

we did that in the 1st 6 months of conte's reign, so why we haven't done it against since? it's definitely conte's fault with his own mentality and approach.

and no, blunders we had at the start of this season also conte's fault, it's his job to prepare for the most part the same team he already had past 2.5 years, to suddenly found his players blundering right and left meant something went wrong.

the lack of wingers excuse can't hold because we still have such players, there's also nothing that prevent conte from using 4-3-2-1, we have quite many flexible players.

another thing is the way conte set up vidal marchisio CM always be so far ahead of the pitch (and also these so called defensive wingers but placed far ahead on the pitch while still laughably unable to give any significant offensive threat?!?) easily exposing 3 CBs and one regista for counter attacks, the exact same thing I've seen since the conversion to 3-5-2, too easily read if the opponent did little study to this team, and some did, many times we conceded in such similar way it's just not funny, such glaring weakness should be addressed long ago and simple tactical changes should've been made, but conte didn't do that.
:tup: Bottom line: the ultra defensive/cautious approach, wont work in europe. At least this much must be obvious after 2 years and similar results in group stage.
Maybe this elimination, can work as a blessing in disguise -I thought Real games would do it- and starting from EL we see a different approach from him. :boh:
I certainly hope so, cuz this sh!t is bound to fail 9 out of 10 in europe.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,943
3 trophys... Serie a, yea woah tharts gonna be hard, coppa italia,dont need to say anything, only reason i want conte to actually take the el serious is to help with the coefficents


Oh and not to mentian the rest of serie a, italy, and europe are laughing at us
Oh noes the rest of Serie A and Europe are laughing at us :cry: what are we to do now?

Go support Real Madrid or Barcelona you turd.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
neutralizing, locking up opponents etc those are the weaklings' defensive mentality in any kind of competition.

you can go all defensive against muhammad ali for 12 rounds neutralizing all his punches yet the jury will hand the win to ali if you can't even scratch him.

obsessing with such mentality just show how a loser you are.

imposing your play > neutralizing your opponents.

we did that in the 1st 6 months of conte's reign, so why we haven't done it against since? it's definitely conte's fault with his own mentality and approach.

and no, blunders we had at the start of this season also conte's fault, it's his job to prepare for the most part the same team he already had past 2.5 years, to suddenly found his players blundering right and left meant something went wrong.

the lack of wingers excuse can't hold because we still have such players, there's also nothing that prevent conte from using 4-3-2-1, we have quite many flexible players.

another thing is the way conte set up vidal marchisio CM always be so far ahead of the pitch (and also these so called defensive wingers but placed far ahead on the pitch while still laughably unable to give any significant offensive threat?!?) easily exposing 3 CBs and one regista for counter attacks, the exact same thing I've seen since the conversion to 3-5-2, too easily read if the opponent did little study to this team, and some did, many times we conceded in such similar way it's just not funny, such glaring weakness should be addressed long ago and simple tactical changes should've been made, but conte didn't do that.

good summary :tup:

lol dominant formation my azz zach... im starting to think u are one of Conte´s accounts in this forum
 

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