Antonio Conte (73 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,906
Such bad a coach prandelli is huh?

1. Does well with a mediocre Parma and put's them in a respectable position.
2. Takes over Fiorentina the season after they nearly got relegated, and puts them fourth. Gets knocked out of the CL on away goal rules to eventual finalists Bayern, after topping a group with both Lyon and Liverpool in it.
3. Takes the reigns of an average Italy who just got knocked out of the group stage in the WC 2010, and sends them to the final against a great Spain, on his first international job.

yep terrible coach that Prandelli is
so how is that a better achievement than 4 trophies in 2 seasons following 2 seasons finishing 7th which is the standard achievement for prandelli at club level
 

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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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I wanted him to ask the team to attack more but when I saw how Madrid react to the smallest of space I realized why he took the cautious approach. Even for the equalizing goal we did not push so fiercely and after that we were extremely exhausted and pressure would simply expose us to a fatal loss. Now it's totally up to him to bring the six needed points that see us through.

yep... in the end i realized we coulndt ask for more... because real were just much more dangerous than us with every friggin ball they got.

We tried but thery were just tood angerous
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,608
I hope the anti 3-5-2 crowd can now get it through their thick heads that lack of focus by our defenders is what made life so difficult for us thus far this season rather than the formation. Cacares' gift to Madrid today confirms that the 4-3-3 doesnt make us any more or less focused and error-prone than the 3-5-2.
We would have won today had it not been for Cacares and Casillas.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Cool story but we played 4-3-3 tonight. We also played two fantastic games with the 3-5-2 before the Parma game.
Can you really call dis 4-3-3? It looked more like a 4 4 2.

Plus Casillas was very shaky, high balls are not his super strong point, and neither were his DCs in this game.
Its infuriating. And normally you also have chiellini and quag, both of who are great in the air.This isnt just today though. He seems deathly afraid of counter attacks. Thats the only explanation why juventus sucks so much in dead ball situations compared to say ranieri's juve
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Risk vs reward.

juventus almost never capitalizes on dead balls. Considering how many strong aerial players juve, it criminal not to take advantage of it. Esprcially considering it can be used as a great weapin when things dont go your way. Too many teams have proven they can be quite effective and deadly, just from relying on dead ball situations
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
4,967
:tup: that you understand risk vs reward... more risk than potential reward because Madrid players are better in the air than Juve's (low probability of reward)and lethal in counter attacks (high risk).
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
I meant in general, not just the madrid game.
speaking of the madrid game, you would think after the 2nd time you pass the ball to asa and nothing good happens, yoyd try something else...
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
4,967
Pirlo did cross the ball in the box and it did land on Pogba's head. Pogba's vision was blinded by players jumping infront of him and the resulting header looked more like a clearance.

In general, I would like to see the team utilize the height advantage, but barring Chiellini and Caceres I think the rest of our players are quite ineffective in scoring from headers.
 

GarfielD

Senior Member
May 21, 2009
13,388
Pirlo did cross the ball in the box and it did land on Pogba's head. Pogba's vision was blinded by players jumping infront of him and the resulting header looked more like a clearance.

In general, I would like to see the team utilize the height advantage, but barring Chiellini and Caceres I think the rest of our players are quite ineffective in scoring from headers.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
I hope the anti 3-5-2 crowd can now get it through their thick heads that lack of focus by our defenders is what made life so difficult for us thus far this season rather than the formation. Cacares' gift to Madrid today confirms that the 4-3-3 doesnt make us any more or less focused and error-prone than the 3-5-2.
We would have won today had it not been for Cacares and Casillas.
No way.

The team lost to Madrid mainly due to individual errors, like with the 352. So defense was not compromised, they didn't have a lot of chances.

On the other hand, offensive end was vastly improved. Look how many chances were generated in both games. The team is much less predictable.

I really hope Conte sticks to this formation. Even though that is highly unlikely to happen. He said that he considers this 433 as a more defensive approach than 352. :(
 

Albertmare

Idea Maker
Mar 24, 2006
13,949
I defended this guy for far too long, but I'm on JCK side now. We're on the ropes for like 30 minutes and the subs come on when in the last 10 minutes? One of which was on the last 5?

Come the summer I want to see Prandelli Conte has taken us as far as he can go

Are you fucking kidding me ?
:lol2::lol:

prandelli is a lame coach , and will never reach Conte's achievement ,

PREAAASEEEEEEEEE , get some sleep man
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Just 2 things to evaluate here.

IM not here to bash conte today, but explain me this 2 thnigs:

1-Why those short corners when having pogba and llorente?
2-Why the subs in the 80 minute?. Carletto was doing them pretty early...but conte was super late as always...even when knowing the players where out of gas.

This 2 things are worrysome coming from a top notch coach.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
I think we play short corners because it mitigates the danger from counter-attacks. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's the only thing I can think of.
 
May 22, 2007
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2-Why the subs in the 80 minute?. Carletto was doing them pretty early...but conte was super late as always...even when knowing the players where out of gas.
I agree, Llorente in particular looked dead by the end of the game. I suspect it was because Conte was trying to drain every drop of energy from the balanced system he created.
 

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